Talk:Gormenghast (TV serial)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by 70.89.176.249 in topic Plot deviations

Rewrite and Critical Reception edit

I just rewrote the page, in particular adding in a plot section to show how the storyline was distributed within episodes; and tidying up the "differences between book/screen" section. I felt that a "critical reception" was needed, but I don't have access to any of the original TV reviews from the time, even though I know that it divided opinion a bit. I'll leave this to someone else who is better informed and has accurate sources perhaps?

I believe I removed all weasel words so deleted that tag, though I kept the "unverifiable research" bit as I wasn;'t sure to which section it referred; it may be that I removed some of those bits too. However it may have referred to the China/Tibet link. I wasn't sure if this was speculation or something that was a stated intention of the producers, so I left that in for someone who knows more than I do to deal with!

Smeddlesboy (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Steerpike/Nannie Slagg edit

"In the series, Steerpike poisons Nannie Slagg, who has become an obstacle to Steerpike's relationship with Fuchsia. In the book, Nannie Slagg dies of old age."

I'd have that the cause of Nannie Slagg's death in the book is at best ambiguous; and when I read it I thought that the implication was definitely the case that Steerpike poisoned her (at the end of one chapter Steerpike steals poison from the Doctor; the first sentence of the next chapter said that "Nannie Slagg died the next day"). Therefore I don't know if it is worth including as a "difference" between the TV series and the book; but am putting it here rather than just editing it myself in case I had the wrong end of the stick

Smeddlesboy (talk) 08:29, 29 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

Update - I have just done a major rewrite of the page, so I rewrote this bit now

Smeddlesboy (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

When? edit

On the back of the DVD it says 'First Transmitted January - February 2000'

"the creators preferred a new approach that injected a good deal more colour and humour into what is, on the page, a very dark and exhausted world; a place of shadows, dust, rust and nettles."

This is idiotic. There is TONS of humor in the books--very dark and often grotesque humor, often, but humor nonetheless. Perhaps the series is lighter than the books, but to imply that the books are humorless or unmitigatedly dark is simply wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.179.45 (talk) 01:50, 19 July 2010 (UTC)Reply


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Plot deviations edit

In the books, Steerpike is able to insinuate himself into Barquentine's service by taking advantage of the transitional chaos following the death of Sourdust. (The castle had all but forgotten Barquentine even existed, until the unexpected need arose for a new master of ritual.) If Barquentine were master of ritual from the beginning (as in the TV series), given his vitupertive personality it is highly unlikely he would have ever taken on Steerpike as an assistant. There would have been no compelling reason for it, and, more importantly, it would have been unprecedented in the rituals.

Also, Sourdust is Steerpike's first murder, and a significant turning point for his character. Prior to this event he has been ambitious, opportunistic, and manipulative, but not necessarily evil or amoral. The library fire is his first major crime, and while the death of Sourdust was not (as far as we know) premeditated, it is the realization that he can exploit this fortuitous event for his own gain which truly sets him firmly on his ruthless path forward.

The fact that Sourdust is not represented, and that no one dies in the library fire should, I believe, be mentioned as significant plot deviations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 20:18, 5 April 2019 (UTC)Reply