Talk:Gonzo journalism/Archive 1

Archive 1

Transmetropolitan?

I think a section on Transmetropolitan would be appropriate, considering its primary character and storytelling style is an excellent example of gonzo journalism. Aufheben 14:49, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

New Journalism

The thing is it's just Tom Wolfe who coined the term "New journalism" however, "Creative Nonfiction" and "Literary Journalism" come closer to a title for a genre since the "New Journalism" phrase is really limited to Wolfe and I find it POVish to set him up as the phrase maker for this genre. I think it's inaccurate and not generally accepted in the fields as a much used term in comparison to Creative nonfiction and Literary journalism. Also, I think you are missing the point on Gonzo, which involves the event being changed by the active participation of the journalist in the story. Hence totally inverting the standards of journalism in the Gonzo way. Food for thought, I'll get bold when I've more time. Best, Calicocat 23:56, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Could we maybe get an elaboration on the central principle of gonzo-journalism? I have read the article, but I still have no idea what it exactly is.

How could you not understand Gonzo Journalism? When I explain it to others I describe it as taking a first person perspective where the writer is an integral character of the piece of writing. The writers viewpoints are often distored and skewed because of the use of drugs and alcohol. Thus Gonzo Journalism is writing about ones viewpoint while being fucked up on chemical substances. Also, I can't site the source right now, but isn't an alternate definition of Gonzo mean the "last person standing at a party"? I will try and find that, I will also log in next time when I post.

Since this is no gonzo we should remove the "I"s. Here we don't write from first person point of view.

In reference to the origin of the term, in the mentioned 1956 novel "The Pusher" by Evan Hunter, the character named Gonzo is revealed to have gotten the nickname as a result of a mishearing of the word "gunsel". (At the time of this entry portions of the book are available to be browsed on Google Book Search; the passage referenced is on page 199.) As the reference to "The Pusher" came from Booker, rather than Cardoso or Thompson, there may be little justification for adding this information to the article, but it may provide some insight for the curious. Pfeutzeneutre (talk) 11:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

(Begin ExLegeLibertas here) Can we remove the "Gonzo Terror" thing at the bottom? It links directly to a hugely biased website. This is an encyclopedia, not a soapbox. ExLegeLibertas (talk) 09:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Symbol

The article says, the symbol of Gonzo contains a part of a cactus. It seems to me more like poppy, which has also hallucigenic effects. A citation would be great to verify what that thing really is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.134.159.109 (talk) 23:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

This is the text which you are going to verify with a reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twindsor (talk • contribs) 02:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's a peyote button from the peyote cactus, Thomas loved his mescaline, and living on the west coast there was plenty of it growing in the desert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.184.2.27 (talk) 04:44, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

References

Origin of the Name Gonzo

According to dictionary.reference.com [[1]] the word Gonzo derives from the use by Hunter S Thomson for Gonzo journalism, and this article states that happened in about 1970 (reference.com has 1971 in one citation). However, from [[2]] it would seem the Muppet, Gonzo the Great, was born of the same year. Gonzo (the muppet) describes himself as a weirdo. Is it the case that Thomson's work was named as such, after the weird purple muppet, a thing not unlike a physical manifestation of his work? Should this be mentioned in this article, even if refuted? How come there is no wikipedia article on the muppet of that name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.100.42 (talk) 22:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually gonzo is an Italian word, commonly used well before 1971. Gonzo is somebody who is easily duped or cheated. You are a gonzo if you believe whatever people tell you. The origin of the term is uncertain, but it must be quite old if there is a character called Gonzo in Stendhal's The Charterhouse of Parma, set in Italy and published in 1839. --93.40.129.183 (talk) 14:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

True, and in the same chapter of that novel, there actually is a character called Dr. Rambo as well. I'm not kidding, report to chapter 28 (XXVIII) of The Charterhouse of Parma. --Insert coins (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The word Gonzo is also used in Spain to mean a fool or someone who is a little strange.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.23.60.62 (talk)

Louis Theroux

In the article mention is made of the work of Jon Ronson. Why is there no mention of Louis Theroux? His style is typically "Gonzo" and because his documentaries are made for the BBC, they reach a large audience. I am sure that many people in Europe and probably the United States are familiar with his work. 77.167.212.162 (talk) 14:46, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Jennifer Marinelli

I took this out because I could not find out who Jennifer Marinelli was or why her opinion is important. If she is nobody and her opinion is not valued, it should be removed. Furthermore, the quote suggests that blogs and twitter are the children of Thompson's Gonzo Journalism without giving any evidence of that. As it is likely that Twitter would have existed even if Thompson had shot himself in 1965 rather than 20005, her explanation, as quoted, is insufficient.

In a May 1, 2010 article, Michigan Online News writer Jennifer Marinelli argues the long-lasting, sweeping effects of Thompson's work—not only on journalism, but the collective conscience as well. “Hunter S. Thompson didn't just create a new form of journalism. He created a new way of thinking that is still important in today’s society. A style that is so influential that it has seeped through to the hearts and minds of the succeeding generations. Within the last two decades there have been an onslaught of novels, documentaries, works of art, and websites devoted to Thompson. It is doubtful that many members of the Digital Age partake in the hard gonzo lifestyle of drugs and alcohol that Thompson symbolizes. However, it is hard to ignore the similarities between Thompson's gonzo journalism and today's growing popularity of citizen journalism through new media like blogs and Twitter.” [8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.148.25 (talk) 05:22, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Image of Gonzo the Great

Near the bottom of the actual article there is an image with the caption "Graffiti of Gonzo the Great in front of the Radisson Blu in Hamburg". I could not find any reference in the text to that image and I don't think this is related to Gonzo the Great. Similar graffiti and stickers can be found all over Hamburg, you can find more of them when you do a google image search for mausland hamburg. The artists always take a known symbol with a face and put the logo of mausland.de where the face was.

tl;dr: remove the image, it doesn't belong here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.28.202.206 (talk) 16:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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"Gonzo journalism involves an approach to accuracy that concerns the reporting of personal experiences and emotions..." This is terrible writing. "A involves B, which concerns C". After reading it, we still have no idea of the relationships between A, B, and C. Just nauseating, please fix it. jej1997 (talk) 17:51, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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Any reason Dr. Bones was removed?

Dr. Bones has been styling himself as a gonzo journalist since he began writing yet all his information on the page has been deleted. His pieces hit all the notes:

1. First-person narrative 2. Dialogue 3. Weird freakout

Unsure why every reference to him has been removed while "gonzo today," a website of cheap imitations is still here. Dr. Bones at least does actual journalism, and has been interviewed specifically for his knowledge on the anarcho-terrorists known as FAI. Undid the removal, which was marked as removing "promotional material." If better sources are needed I can always use those.

Not notable. --damiens.rf 08:31, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

He's been featured on Gonzo Today, Sputnik News, Revolutionary Left Radio, Films for Action, Enough is Enough...he's actually quite well known among the Leftist crowd. What exactly does it take to prove he's "notable?" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.188.146 (talk) 18:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Get acquainted to WP:BIO. --damiens.rf 22:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Okay so to be here he essentially needs his own page. Fine. He's published a book, been featured on the news, interviewed(The person's work (or works)...has won significant critical attention) and even caused a large controversy in regards to another Anarchist author. He is also, to my knowledge, the only person talking about Egoist-Communism("The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique") and is indeed regarded as a expert in Max Stirner's ideas("Has a large fan base or a significant 'cult' following").

With direct links to all this, would THAT be enough to make a page and deem him notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.188.146 (talk) 08:28, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Music clip

Hi, I just wanted to ask if the clip can be made relevant? Its only purpose as-is would be to trigger the memory of someone familiar with the song. It’s just intro instrumental. Can it have the first line of the vocal or a specific section? Thanks Phil, Portsmouth, UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.86.97 (talk) 14:44, 16 February 2022 (UTC)