Talk:Gondor/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC) Many thanks for taking this on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the responses Chiswick Chap. I hadn't quite finished going through the article earlier, and just have a few further points:

• Concept and Creation: "led to the Kin-strife and introduced the regency of Rómendacil II" - might be worth adding a little elaboration here (or some linking) as this is the first time that the phrase Kin-strife appears in the article.

It just means civil war, so have called it that now.

• Adaptations: Consider renaming section, as only one adaptation is discussed.

Renamed to 'In film'.

• Adaptations: "compared to the Byzantine Empire, for numerous reasons" - I think the phrase "for numerous reasons" could be deleted, unless the extended DVD source supports this, in which case maybe it could be added into a version of the following sentence.

Cut.

Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap I'm happy to promote this to GA. Thanks for all your work, and well done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll be looking to claim points for the 2020 WikiCup for this review. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Review Comments

• Picture caption: "Gondor (red) within Middle-earth, T.A. 3019" - I suggest linking "T.A." to the Third Age article.

Done.

• Númenórean kingdom: "drowning of Númenor" and "Sauron survived the destruction of Númenor" - consider adding a brief summary about the drowning/destruction here, or maybe a link to the relevant part of the Númenor or Sauron article.

Good point. Linked.

• Third Age, under the Stewards: This section doesn't seem to read as smoothly as the others. It might be because there are some consecutive relatively short sentences here, so I suggest considering whether some could be combined or expanded.

I've done a bit of copy-editing, hope it's to your liking.

• Third Age, under the Stewards: I don't know if there is a main reason how "Gondor became very rich" - if there is, then consider adding it.

None that I've read; basically Tolkien just wanted to paint a picture of a well-developed civilisation. It's already compared by a scholar to Byzantine Civilisation in the article.

• War of the Ring and restoration: Part of this seems to be written in a different tense to the other historical sections. (e.g. words like sends/attends/suggests rather than wordslike were/landed/brought) This may be my personal reading, or deliberate, so I don't have a specific recommendation other than re-reading and amending if appropriate.

Well spotted! Fixed.

• War of the Ring and restoration: like the Third age section, this doesn't flow quite as well as other parts of the article, consider some rewriting.

Again, I've copy-edited it, hope it's more to your liking now.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): (Note: I checked both results showing above 0% on Earwig's Copyvio Detector, and the only shared phrases are titles. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC))

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail: