Talk:Global perceptions of autism

Peer Review

This article goes through a lot of topics giving the perfect amount of globalization to the issue. However, the introduction can be fixed as it seems to be more of an academic paper beginning rather than for a Wikipedia article. Other than that, simply rewording will be the way to go. Thanks for a great article. Gracieoribamise (talk) 02:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Peer review

This article is very thorough and does an exceptional job of providing information clearly. It also has a great deal of sources and academic support for its claims. The addition of the western section really takes the article to the next level. The one consideration would be the addition of a picture. Alison.moscoso (talk) 01:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Some improvements

This is a very well-cited article on an interesting issue, and it address an area in which Wikipedia is often poor. I just wanted to draw attention to these sentences which could be improved:

• "Additionally, utilization of school systems could facilitate early detection." Is there a way to express this with shorter words?
• "In Brazil, the Brazilian Public Health System suggests that scientific evidence should govern public health policy; following, autism research is necessary..." The "following" seems out of place.
• "In Africa, an autism diagnosis is often has comorbidity with epilepsy or intellectual disability." 'is often has' isn't right. Can this idea be expressed in lay language, without the technical term "comorbidity"?
• "Obtaining reliable data about autism around the world is challenged by many factors." I see what this is trying to say, but "obtaining ... is challenged" isn't good grammar.
• "Existing organizations such as the International Child Neurology Association can be used..." Is this a recommendation? Wikipedia should not make recommendations. If the fact is that the ICNA raise awareness about autism in Africa, then that is what it should say.
• Make sure any technical terms used in the article are defined and/or wikilinked.

Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 12:30, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Really pleased to see the improvements to the article in response to feedback. Excellent work User:Allisonshields: this is developing towards a valuable, high-quality article. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:43, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

A small suggestion for further improvement: the second sentence of the lead. At the moment, this is about the article, but really it should be about the topic. What are the factors that make a difference to how autism is perceived and treated in different countries? It looks as though it's a combination of economics, culture and attitudes to health in general, but you're the expert, not me. Choose a sentence that sums up the sources of difference in this way and which is supportable given what you say in the rest of the article. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 15:09, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to move the article

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The result of the proposal was withdrawn. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Global perceptions of autism → Perceptions of autism in the developing world – The article's scope is not global as the current title suggests, it does not discuss Europe, North America or Australasia. The lead explicitly states that the scope is "non-Western nations" so the title should match the content. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:39, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose Unless there's another article discussing perceptions of autism in the West, it's the scope that should change, not the title. To have Global perceptions of autism redirect to Perceptions of autism in the developing world would be misleading. --BDD (talk) 18:14, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Then move it without a redirect. The clearly stated scope of the article is the non-western world. Widening the scope to "global" would make it so broad that it would be pointless. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:18, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

What?? Why shouldn't we cover perceptions of autism in the West? --BDD (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

• I was planning on adding a short section about perceptions in the West, though not to the same extent of the information about developing nations. Perhaps this will help solve the problem. If not, I am not opposed to changing the title. Allisonshields (talk) 00:34, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Seeing as Allisonshields has expanded the scope to match the title, I withdraw the proposal. We're done here. Thanks everyone. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 05:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed Addition

I propose the following addition: "These drugs, such as selective serotonin uptake inhibitors, improve social interaction and self-control by reducing obsessive behavior. When used alongside psychosocial therapies, these drugs can greatly decrease the struggles of social interaction for people on the autism spectrum, although more research is needed before the medications can be safe and effective. " The addition would become the final two sentences of the "Treatment in Western Countries" section, and the current final sentence would be removed. Thanks, Nickyharrington (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

References

Introductory Paragraph -- Suggestions of Cause Possibly Misleading

Greetings:

This is my first time commenting or attempting to contribute. I am grateful for the existence of this particular page, and have a personal and professional interest in the topic.

The first paragraph gives some possible reasons of the cause of ASD, and there is a citation of a specific study that suggested a 350% rise in ASD with mother's with celiac disease. I am concerned the information is potentially misleading and may give readers an incomplete idea of potential causes of ASD.

That particular study referenced (http://pediatrics.aappublications.org.mwu.idm.oclc.org/content/124/2/687) from 2009 using data from 1993-2004, was an era in which both ASD and celiac disease were less diagnosed than today.

Several follow up studies have been performed, some suggesting no link between celiac and ASD:

http://www.scielo.br.mwu.idm.oclc.org/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0004-282X2012000100007&lng=en&tlng=en

and

https://doaj-org.mwu.idm.oclc.org/article/7db50962c1f34996817082c4151a2bb9

and others continuing to see some link: https://ijponline.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13052-016-0308-x

For this article to be most effective, perhaps either altering the first paragraph to discuss the current thought around ASD cause(s) -- the wikipedia page on autism may be an effective place to start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism -- or, if the celiac link is thought to be relevant and important for this article, indicating that the findings are controversial and further studies are being performed.

Thanks

reliable sources please

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:51, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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