Talk:George Sisler

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Yankees10 in topic Why capitalize manager?

Machester, Ohio edit

I understand the compulsion for editors to want to link his birthplace of "Manchester, Ohio" with the city of Manchester, Ohio, but this is not the same place where he was born. His birthplace is a rural hamlet known by locals as Manchester. Linking this to the city, which is an entirely different place elsewhere in the state, would be an error. Thanks!

fielding? edit

This article states he was "one of the greatest fielding first basemen of all time." Nothing in the article backs this up. I am removing the claim until it is backed up. Kingturtle 23:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

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GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:George Sisler/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ezlev (talk · contribs) 00:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply


I'll review this article! I've created two subsections below: one for {{GAProgress}} as an overview of the review's status and one for specific points to be raised and discussed. I'm looking forward to collaborating with you, Sanfranciscogiants17!

After an initial review, this is looking very good. I'll place it on hold to allow time for changes to be made! See below. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:24, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
Nicely done, Sanfranciscogiants17! I'm satisfied. Congrats on the GA! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:41, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Progress edit

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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

Notes edit

Well written edit

Prose: Overall very good.

  • The first sentence of the section .400 hitter and MVP (1920–1922) reads "In 1920, baseballs began to be manufactured with a tighter-wound yarn, and emphasis These changes ushered in the live-ball era, in which many batters began to hit more home runs." Emphasis on what?
    •   Done
  • Next paragraph. "After tying the old record on September 27, Sisler set the new one on a day dedicated to him, in which he was presented with a $1,000 check, a $1,500 silver service, and flowers before the game at Sportsman's Park." Was the day dedicated to him before he set the new record, or retroactively dedicated to him because of the new record?
    • It was kind of a coincidence that that day was dedicated to him, so I clarified.

Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 18:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

      •   Done
  • Same paragraph. "Sisler also finished second in the AL in eight offensive categories, including home runs (19, behind Ruth's 54), RBI (122, behind 137), and stolen bases (42, behind Sam Rice's 63)." Who had 137 RBI?
    •   Done
  • Same paragraph. "Despite finishing second to Ruth in home runs, Sisler did not try for them, as he was more concerned with keeping a high batting average." I know what this is meant to say but the wording could be clarified.
    •   Done
  • First paragraph of later life section. "Replacing Honus Wagner in 1938 as the commissioner of the National Baseball Congress, Sisler held the role for many years." How long?
    • Unfortunately, the sources aren't clear on this.
      •   Done
  • In the personal life section, first paragraph, the final two sentences seem like they might fit better in the later life section?

MOS:

  • Lede looks good, but do you think it might be good to add a bit more detail about his life after retiring as a player?
    • Considering the way its written, I think it's best left as-is. It's only a brief summary, and Sisler's playing career should be its emphasis. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 18:57, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • I wonder if the "Legacy" section should go after "Later life" and "Personal life"?
    • I think it's best where it is. Much of the honors and accolades dealt with in it refer to his playing career, which makes putting it after that section seem more appropriate. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 18:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
  • Other required MOS guidelines appear to be met

Verifiable edit

Reference style:

  • A-OK

Reliable sources:

  • They appear to be, yes!

No original research:

  • Everything looks to be sourced

Free of copyvio:

  • Earwig looks good (mostly flags quotes)

Broad edit

Addresses main aspects:

  • Definitely looks like it!

Stays focused:

  • It does!

Neutral edit

I tweaked a little bit of wording, but now I believe the article is neutral and reflects the sourcing.

Stable edit

No substantial changes since September improvements by nominator

Illustrated edit

By a number of public domain images!

Why capitalize manager? edit

@Yankees10: Why did you capitalize manager in the middle of a line in the infobox? SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:20, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Because it's pretty standard to have all of the positions capitalized in the infobox.-- Yankees10 22:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)Reply