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For reasons known only to Esemgee he has found it necessary to alter a lot of what was written to cloud or distort the meaning and I am heartened that Martinevans123 whom I don't know has found time to revert or at least correct some of these edits. My interest is that of a family member (as is the originator of this entry) who has access to the references quoted and knows a lot more that cannot be backed up by published references. When Esemgee made his changes many are contrary to the references cited and would only be valid under Wikipedia rules if they were supported by equivalent references. Gardencitizen (talk) 16:53, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Gardencitizen I will copy this here from my talkpage. I advise you to assume good faith. The article was a list of short paragraphs written in an awkward style. Now it isn't. Please don't edit articles about people close to you it makes it hard for you to remain neutral. Both this and the previous passage are taken verbatim from the cited references is also not allowed. The article should not be copied from sources but should be written in your own words. This is called WP:COPYVIO. Esemgee (talk) 17:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Gardencitizen, Wikipedia relies on sources that may be accessible to everyone, and claiming that one "knows a lot more that cannot be backed up by published references" counts only as WP:Original Research. I reverted to the original wording here, as I thougnt the original was clearer. But I do not have immediate access to the Bedales Chronicle from March 1950 and I'm now concerned that the wording may have been lifted wholesale. Perhaps you could review all that you have added here and make sure it's not WP:COPYVIO? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reversions martinevans123 but I see that esemgee has traduced the meaning of the paragraph about Gimson passing on the task of building the Memorial Library. There seems little point in changing things back to the original, which was correct in history and emphasis, if somone with other and unverifyable ideas is going to carry on changing anything and everything. Gardencitizen (talk) 16:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by "unverifyable ideas". Could you tell us if what was there, about the building the Memorial Library, was copied directly from the Bedales Chronicle? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:07, 10 November 2017 (UTC) p.s. don't forget, user names look like this: "Esemgee".

I will not rise to your insults and have tried again Gardencitizen. You, and anybody else, can change what ever you want so long as it is in your own words and not copied. Esemgee (talk) 09:33, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

I have changed £18,000 to £7,000 as the sentence did not make sense and found a reference. Should the old reference be removed or was it as mistake? Esemgee (talk) 09:49, 12 November 2017 (UTC)