HGDP failure = POV edit

The project has drawn comparison with the failed Human Genome Diversity Project (HGDP) from the 1990s, which ended after a range of controversies emerged about how the DNA information would be managed. This statement contradicts the HGDP article which does not indicate the the project has been terminated or has not produced any results. This wording smacks of POV. --Eddylyons 19:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

-- Exactly. СЛУЖБА (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Y-DNA 12 Marker Test edit

As noted on Family Tree DNA, the Y-DNA is a 12 marker test. MinstrelOfC 14:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

-- Yes, but you can add more markers if you pay for it yourself. СЛУЖБА (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Accusations of Biopiracy by Native Groups not mentioned-why? edit

Why are there no references to the well-publicized accusations of possible biopiracy by concerned groups? Has Wikipedia's integrity fallen so low that Nat Geo has secretly bribed the editors, or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.166.200 (talk) 04:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

-- It's actually there. Moreover, some complete nonsense concerning the "exploitative and unethical", "use Indigenous peoples as subjects of scientific curiosity in research that provides no benefit to Indigenous peoples, yet subjects them to significant risks", "take blood or other bodily tissue samples for their own use in order to further their own speculative theories of human history", not "giving openly" that the indigenous peoples "are the same as the Pilgrims except coming over several thousand years before" and so on... СЛУЖБА (talk) 00:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

The "Criticism" section. edit

Is it really that necessary to reflect the unreasonable blubbing of some idiots? СЛУЖБА (talk) 00:41, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. These people obviously have no understanding of how the project works, or the aims of it. Nor do they have even a rudimentary knowledge of anthropological theory if they believe that someone is trying to prove "that we’re the same as the Pilgrims except we came over several thousand years before." Facepalm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.215.197 (talk) 19:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

The Criticism section is too damn long. The point need not be laboured. Those political advocates are idiots. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.118.209.122 (talk) 19:48, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

It certainly gives the impression of a vast wall of criticism, all based on what... that Native Americans evolved separately from microbes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:B930:7B90:D41A:9C8D:3E6:E585 (talk) 19:26, 15 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

I trimmed it down. You are correct.--FeralOink (talk) 08:26, 25 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hello, we are a group of students working on this article. We're interested in the topic of "biocolonialism", a term that arose largely in response to this project. We think it would fit under the criticism section, as well as the larger topic of genetic testing. It is a notable political movement that we think is missing from this article. Lindsmach (talk) 17:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC) and @adrianngzz and @evc32Reply

Which test is better: male or female lineage? edit

Or does it matter? I want to do the test, but I'm wondering if there are any reasons for choosing one path over the other. Accuracy maybe? Or are they simply two different lineages and neither is preferable over the other? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnJSal (talkcontribs) 21:51, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

  • The Y-DNA test of the paternal lineage has an advantage for genealogy in that one's surname is used to filter out false positive matches, which are numerous. --Traal (talk) 19:48, 2 May 2012 (UTC)Reply


Are these "questions" real? First: James, you are a Man so you HAVE an Y chromosome, period. If you are a transgender girl believing that you are a man, well for Genetics you are still a girl, sorry. The test is not a scam. Wich is better? male or female lineage? There is not "female" lineage. Only mithocondrial comes totally from mothers but the "7 mithocondrial eves" are not a racial, lineage, geographic or cultural afiliation. At the other side: the "Y chr lineage" from men, give you exactly your father ascendence (race, nation, geographic origin) from at least 200 years to more than a millenium. Geno 2.0 chip gives both mithocondrial and Y chromosome tests -and also autosomal tests (the other chromosomes that are also tested). All together give a really deep idea of wich genotype of human is the tested subject (by aproximation of course, and when more cases and studies are made, the better the analysis of the data given -that is updated regularly by National Geographic)

"Other media" edit

I removed a section which did not contribute to the article and appeared only to be a promotion for a self-published book. Non-notable. --74.111.214.16 (talk) 00:33, 6 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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