Talk:Generation Z in the United States

TikTok Restrictions map

The map of TikTok restrictions on government devices in the United States has been disputed in the edits so moving to the talk page.

I advocate removing the map because it represents:
1) Original research - there is not a source that mentions all the states included in the map that categorizes each state by 'enacting official'
2) Off-topic - if the map discussed bans beyond government devices, that would seem quite relevant to this page, but as it's simply government employees (though without a source it's hard to know exactly which employees, devices, levels of government, etc.), I do not see a connection to this article topic and think it should be removed regardless of whether or not the sourcing and Original Research issue is addressed. Superb Owl (talk) 23:00, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

You asked that over in Project 2025 and I answered your question. Sources are given here, where the map used to be. It should stay because it highlights the difference of opinions between state government officials and young people. This adds to the section where the map is currently located. Nerd271 (talk) 23:07, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

There are no sources that describe 'enacting official' and categorize this issue that way.
The issue of a TikTok ban on government devices being an issue for Gen Z needs its own citations, or else is also WP:OR Superb Owl (talk) 23:14, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Some states are controlled by Republicans, others by Democrats. That's what the map shows. In fact, if you read the sources given over on the page for Restrictions for TikTok in the United States, even the titles state that governors are instituting the bans. Who are they if not state officials? Nerd271 (talk) 23:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

That is what the map shows, but that is not the reality of how power is allocated in the states. Many states have divided governments and this oversimplification into red and blue states based on the governor's party should be clearly spelled out by secondary sources and not your interpretation of them. Superb Owl (talk) 23:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

State governors sign the bans. They have political affiliations. Nerd271 (talk) 23:24, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

As this page is 92.7% authored by you (with the next highest author at 1.7%), would you be open to my requesting a Wikipedia:third opinion to help settle this and any other WP:OR/SYNTH disputes? Superb Owl (talk) 00:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

@Nerd271, any thoughts on requesting a third opinion here? You don't have to say yes but it could speed things up Superb Owl (talk) 15:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Go head. I have also requested the original mapmaker to redo the map without the political labeling. I think that would improve it. Nerd271 (talk) 16:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed it would be a better fit for more articles without the political parties - thanks, will submit the third opinion request Superb Owl (talk) 17:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I removed the map until we can get a consensus. Superb Owl (talk) 18:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I am responding here to a request at WP:3O. The discussion above appears to be whether to include a map of local partial bans of Tiktok as per [1]. I do not find the concerns about original research very concerning as long as the data in the map is verifiable: collating verifiable data into a map is a reasonable thing for us to do that does not involve original interpretation of the data. The map does not seem relevant to this article, however. What sources discuss regional/state level GenZ attitudes on TikTok bans, in a way that the data would be best presented in a map? VQuakr (talk) 23:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Welcome and thanks for taking up our 3O request!
Per WP:OR, I do find the interpretation of the data ('by enacting official') to be unique and not yet found in other sources. We might have an updated map without that at some point that would fix that particular issue.
However, I agree that I still do not see that map (or any future map for that matter) as particularly relevant here when the closest connection to the issue seems to be whether or not students have to switch to using cellular data to use TikTok instead of public university WiFi, though it doesn't specify which states have that policy in the map, just which states have a policy that might have that implication. Superb Owl (talk) 01:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)