Talk:Gemistos Plethon

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The article on Plethon says "While in Florence [that is, 1438] Plethon wrote De Differentiis, a description of the differences between Plato's and Aristotle's conceptions of God. Scholarios **later** defended Aristotle and convinced emperor Manuel II Palaeologus that Plethon's support for Plato amounted to heresy." But Manuel died in 1425!

Something wrong here!

Looks like I wrote that...I'll try to figure out what I did wrong :) Thanks! Adam Bishop 06:22, 17 May 2004 (UTC)Reply
Alright, sorry for the extreme delay, I realize what I did - I just misread a bit in the source I used. (All that stuff about Manuel happened before Florence, so as a result the info in the article was out of order!) Adam Bishop 05:01, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

1) Changed "pseudo-polytheistic" to "eclectic polytheistic" 2) added a link on a decent UofOklahoma paper on De Differentiis 3) and one of the pleiad of modern Greek works on him. 4) Also added this, from same:"In 1466 some of his Italian disciples, headed by Sigismondo Malatesta, stole his remains from Mistra and interred them in the Tempio Malatestiano in Rimini, "so that the great Teacher may be among free men". 5) Further ammended the following to indicate that it was not simply a copy burned in protest but the original and only extant version that was destroyed: "and its contents lost to mankind."

It seems a little odd to jump from his imprisonment to his travels west. Do we know why the next emperor (I assume) took a different view of his "heresy"? Dan 01:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Does anyone know where any of Pletho's works can be found online? It would be a nice addition to the article and would allow more people to make helpful contributions to the article. I can't find anything except for books about his works, books about books about his works, and articles about those. As old as this guy is, there has to be something of his in the public domain. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

The supposed portrait by Gozzoli is problematic speculation. By now there is no authentic portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.0.27 (talk) 21:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Plato and Pletho

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Here's the Wiki image of the ancient Plato:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato#/media/File:Plato_Silanion_Musei_Capitolini_MC1377.jpg

And here's the Wiki image of the Mediaeval Gemisthus Pletho:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemistus_Pletho#/media/File:Benozzo_Gozzoli,_Pletone,_Cappella_dei_Magi.jpg

The two men have remarkably similar biographies. Both wrote extensively on the exact same subjects. Yet the 15th century Pletho's writings have nearly all disappeared, whereas the ancient Plato's have largely survived.

This article needs to incorporate information which suggests that Plato and Pletho are one and the same, and where only split in two in the latter 16th century. it would benefit the article greatly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.88.60.150 (talk) 11:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Why should they? Which published work has ever even claimed their identity? (Notwithstanding the obvious evidence against such claims). Str1977 (talk) 12:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 20 January 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved to Gemistos Plethon. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)Reply



Gemistus PlethoGeorgios Gemistos Plethon – As per WP:COMMONNAME, the name "Gemistus Pletho" gives 1.5k results [1] and the name "Georgios Gemistos Plethon" gives 3.2k results [2]. Othon I (talk) 13:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

() Indeed, "Gemistos Plethon" is even more frequent. Thanks for pointing this out. Othon I (talk) 17:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

An Essay On Virtues

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Is there a webpage, that has the essay On Virtues (Περί ἀρετῶν) by Mr. Gemistos? Apisite (talk) 13:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Here's one webpage found: http://www.academyofathens.gr/el/node/2030 --Apisite (talk) 13:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply