Talk:Gdov

Origin of name Gdov

Oudova in Estonian language, Outova in Finnish language. The Russian version has developed from these, originally Vatja language name. Gdov was connected to Narva with one of the very first automobile buss lines in Russia offering public service in 1913. See offical timetable Nr.51. Departure from Gdov (Doma of S.I.Mironov) at 10.45 arriving to Narva (Station Square) at 15.15. (Connection to Revel - St.Petersburg train Nr.14). Departure Narva (Station Square) at 04.50 (after the arrival of passenger train Nr.11 from St.Petersburg). Arriving to Gdov at 09.20. (Doma of S.I.Mironov). There was also train connection to and from Revel. Gdov had a large Estonian minority at least to 1936.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.201.53 (talk • contribs)

Just for the record. The English name of "Vatja language" is Votic (their own name was: vaďďa tšeeli), and Revel is an old Russian name of Tallinn. The Estonian minority (including my grandmother), I think, was there until 1940s when most of them left for Estonia. There was an Estonian school, possibly until 1936, but it was either closed by the authorities or at least the teaching language was changed into Russian. The original dwellers in the area may have been speakers of Votic or some similar language; I think most of the Estonian minority were descendants of peasants who moved there in the middle of 19th century, as there was some free land. Another point. I had a look at the Russian wikipedia and they have a whole section about the etymology of the name. I don't think the name is likely to be of Fenno-ugric origin: for example, the Russian wikipedia refers to a town in southern poland with an almost identical name: Gdów (there is an etymology section in that article in the Polish wikipedia too - but I don't understand Polish). Lebatsnok (talk) 06:53, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

For those who are still in denial, here is a source that definitely establishes that Gdov once had an Estonian minority. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 18:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

True. There was an extensive migration going on late XIX-early XX century from the Russian Baltic provinces to Pskov and St.Petersburg governorates as well as to regions with more fertile lands and not so densely populated like Esthonia or Livonia. Opposite migration from Russia to the Baltic provinces also went on in XVII-XX centuries. Brandmajor (talk) 20:45, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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Restricted access info

It may be of interest for the visitors to know whether Gdov can be visited without a permit that issues the Borderguard Service of the FSB. The town is indeed located within the Borderland Area, and of course no 'reliable source' such as book or magazine would encourage people to ignore the rules and rely on good luck. I left a note that no checkpoints existed on the roads to the town (at least until late 2017 as people share their experience on the forums) with a reference to one of the blogs. Now the source is deleted as 'unreliable' and the note itself may be deleted soon as well, so I leave this UNRELIABLE info on the talk page. And a hint: according to the regulations, borderland may be entered and exited en route from/to the state border, that may be e.g. on a way from Southeastern Estonia to St.Petersburg via Gdov, where a person may lawfully make a stop to use the travelling facilities like foodstores, cafes, gas stations and so on. Brandmajor (talk) 15:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)Brandmajor