Talk:Gale Sayers

Stats

Where are the stats?

Why deleted?

Why was so much of the factual info deleted from this article? I can understand that it needed clean-up, but... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by D3gtrd (talk • contribs) 21:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

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POV

"Sayers' rookie season should be ranked among the greatest single seasons by any player in professional football history."

That's POV. Maybe a link to people who HAVE ranked it highly should be there, and a statement saying as much. Maxvip (talk) 18:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Check the residence

The article says that Sayers resides in Chicago. Can that be sourced? (I know that he has in the past lived in Wakarusa, Indiana, but I don't know if that is still true. The town's page lists him as a part-time resident there. 64.255.107.247 (talk) 02:39, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

all purpose yards statement may be false

I am not an editor; I'm just sharing this possible correction for someone who knows how to verify and implement it. Unfootnoted text says Sayers "had 2,272 all-purpose yards (also a record, later broken by Tim Brown" but http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_purpose_yds_single_season.htm (a widely used reference site) differs. It shows that Sayers did 2,272 in 1965, then 2,440 in 1966. Tim Brown had 2,428 in 1963.

Note that this reference source only counts regular season performance. However the existing article's claim is also incorrect when considering regular season plus playoffs.

So there are a plethora of errors: - The 1965 figure was not a record anyway. Tim Brown exceeded 2,272 in 1962. - If regular season plus playoffs is being reported, say so. Boo. - Show the reference. BOO.

If only regular season performance is counted, per the site shown above, - Brown did not break the 2,272 record. - Sayers' 2,272 in 1965 was not a record at all. - Sayers' 2,440 in 1966 WAS a record, and not broken by Brown; it was later exceeded by Mack Herron in 1974, followed by 10 others as of January 2016. - That Tim Brown did not play in more games than Sayers!

Note, there was another Tim Brown who played from 1988-2004 and he is who is likely the subject of the reference on the existing page. Once again, how about some sources.

What should be noteworthy, and factually documented by the web source above, is that as of January 2016, only one player appears more than once in the top 20 all time single regular season NFL All-Purpose Yards leaders (sorry, awkwardly worded). That is indeed noteworthy considering the brevity of his career. ≈≈≈≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.141.15 (talk) 02:07, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gale Sayers/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kaiser matias (talk · contribs) 08:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:

Some general comments:

• "Sayers was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1977 and, aged 34, remains the youngest person to receive the honor." This could be better written. Something like "Sayers was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1977 at the age of 34, and remains the youngest person to receive the honor." I don't think that is the best either, but it can be improved.

•  Done

• "Born in Wichita, Kansas, but raised in Omaha, Nebraska..." Shouldn't it just be "born in Wichita and raised in Omaha"?

•  Done Yes, don't know why it was written that way.

• "He was three times recognized as a first-team All-Big Eight selection and was a consensus pick for the College Football All-America Team in both 1963 and 1964." Has no citation.

•  Done

• "In the Bears' final game of the season and the first of Sayers' pro career with his parents in attendance, against the Minnesota Vikings..." It may be better to move the mention of the opponent up in the sentence, as it reads awkwardly like this. So like: "Against the Vikings in the Bears' final game of the season, and the first of Sayers' career with his parents in attendance..."

•  Done You're right, that's better.

• "In a November game against the Lions..." This is the first mention of the Lions, so need to link Detroit Lions. There may be other occasions like this, I just noticed this one.

•  Done

• In the concussion lawsuit section, it notes that the 2013 suit was filed without his permission. If that is the case, I'd suggest rewording it so it doesn't say things like "Sayers claims," but instead a more generic "the lawsuit claims."

•  Done

• There are a few references to his wife in the later life section, but no mention of when they got married, or really any proper introduction for her. That should be included, if possible, or at least made more prominent.

• I can't seem to find much regarding their marriage.

That's about it. If those are taken care of the article should be good. Kaiser matias (talk) 08:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

A shame there isn't much on the marriage, but can't fault the article for that. Everything else looks good though. Kaiser matias (talk) 08:59, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

I found a New York Times article that talked about his first marriage to Linda McNeil in 1962 which ended in June 1973 and his subsequent marriage in December the same year to Ardythe Elaine Bullard. It also talks about his children. Hope this helps to fill in some missing blanks. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/sports/football/gale-sayers-dead.html Jurisdicta (talk) 22:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Business

Gale Sayers founded an active and successful IT business in the Chicago area.should be added. Ref. https://www.sayers.com/about/ Ken L (talk) 17:48, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Date of Death

He died on the early morning of Wednesday, September 23 the NY Times made an error of his death saying that it was Tuesday, the 22nd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.122.216.158 (talk) 16:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

It looks like it already got changed. MikaelaArsenault (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Gale Sayers passed away from cancer in 1970 (stated throughout the article). Why does it say he had dementia and passed away in 2020??? 2601:300:4100:A0C0:F924:6D3A:386E:18ED (talk) 17:39, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Sayers's teammate, friend, and fellow Chicago Bears running back Brian Piccolo died in 1970 of cancer. Sayers attended to Piccolo as much as possible in Pic's final illness. That may have been the source of an editor's confusion on the point.Sensei48 (talk) 18:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)