Talk:Frumentius

CONVERTING ETHIOPIA

Was Frumentius of dark skin and fro hair? The early people of Lebanon?? 75.73.105.2 (talk) 19:33, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Ethnicity

Removing a claim not stated in the cited sources isn’t “trolling” or “disruptive editing” as you said. Adding such claims without properly backing them up with reliable sources is. And this is not the first time you misuse sources and state things not stated in them.

Here’s the quote from The Oxford dictionary of late antiquity: https://www.oxfordreference.com/search?btog=chap&isQuickSearch=true&q=Meropius+Greek

Meropius

“Greek philosopher from Tyre who travelled to India under Constantine I . He put in at Aksum , and was killed, but the king took his two young kinsmen into his court. One of them, Frumentius , was eventually consecrated by Athanasius as the first Christian bishop in Aksum.” Whatsupkarren (talk) 14:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

@Red Phoenician ^ Whatsupkarren (talk) 14:17, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

I have already added sources explicitly stating that Frumentius was a native Phoenician so not sure what the point of this is. It is impossible to tell if you are trolling or just illiterate (WP:CIR) when half your edits are full of grammatical errors. (good job on correcting “aithout”) Regarding the Oxford source it cites The Prosopography of the Later Roman Empire which I have reviewed [1] and it says nothing about Meropius being Greek but simply that he was from Tyre. The majority of sources refer to Meropius as a Phoenician or Tyrene including Oxford’s own Handbook of Late Antiquity. [2] Regardless, even if the claim that Meropius were Greek was true this would only substantiate for Meropius himself, not Frumentius. Red Phoenician (talk) 03:57, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Your sources don't say he was a "native Phoenician" but a native of Phoenicia. That doesn't mean he was ethnically Phoenician and could mean he might've been Greek. Just like how Maximus of Tyre was a native of Tyre but ethnically Greek.

You know what the point is, you added earlier that Frumentius "was ethnically phoenician." That wasn't mentioned in the sources. The word ethnically isn't mentioned. And you know how critical that word is.

The thing is, this is not the first you add claims not backed with sources, for example, here, categorising a Syrian saint from Syria as a Lebanese Saint. Or here, categorising a Persian Saint as a Lebanese Saint. Not a single source on the Internet says so. It's clear who has been trolling here..

Btw, many other sources refer to Frumentius as Syrian 1, 2, 3

I'd like proof that the Oxford source which I added cites that source, as I wasn't able to access it. Did Oxford just lie about him being Greek ? Quite unlikely. It is probable that that citation you're talking about doesn't pertain to the claim of him being Greek.

And what are the sources that the sources you added, cite ?

And yeah, that wasn't a "grammatical mistake" that was a typo. Is it really that difficult for you to differentiate between the two? Further personal attacks will be reported. Whatsupkarren (talk) 09:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)