Talk:Fruitvale, Oakland, California

Jingletown/Murder Dubbs

My experience with Jingletown is that it's cleaned up quite a bit, they've actually built a successful housing project there that has won awards and is serving as a model for similar projects in other areas/cities. My understanding of Murder Dubbs is that it's the area between 20th Ave and 29th Ave between the freeways. Steve carlson 04:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I created a new article for San Antonio, and moved Jingletown-related content to it, since JT isn't really in Fruitvale proper. Steve Carlson^Talk 07:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• I just moved it back. It is really more fruitvale. --evrik ^(talk) 17:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I left you a message on your talk page about this, but I wanted to give others an opportunity to join in the discussion. What are your reasons for JT being part of Fruitvale instead of a San Antonio? I don't really care either way, I just want the rationale to be clear. I tend to think of Fruitvale as the commercial area along International Blvd. from Fruitvale Ave to 40th Ave or so, plus the immediately surrounding residential areas. San Antonio, in my mind and according to some city documents, is a larger area that runs from the lake to Sausal Creek, which runs through Jingletown as it approaches the Estuary. So according to this logic, I think Jingletown is a San Antonio neighborhood. Steve Carlson^Talk 18:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I just read that Jingletown USA is actually in East Hampton CT - known for making bells. "A Celebration of Bells" by Eric SLoan and Eric HAtch. Dover has republished in 2009 a compilation of 2 books The Little Book of Bells published in 1964 by Duell SLoan and Pearce New York and "The SOund of Bells" Doubleday & Co. Inc Garden City New York 1966 I don't have the book but was looking at an excerpt from Dover in their free samples that I just happened to catch today. "... Crotal-type bells could be bought by the pound and sewed to leather straps, and the place where they were made was Jingletown, U.S.A.," East Hampton, CT. This town was (and still is) the bell capital of America. ..."

Even in Wiki it is quoted the bell mfgrs started in the 1800's/// Just thot I'd add this in here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.254.54.12 (talk) 19:13, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Edit Request - commons category

• Please add a Commons category:

Greg Henderson (talk) 01:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Happy Editing--IAmChaos 02:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request - Add Fruitvale historic home

• Under the History section, before the sentence that begins with "About 80 years later..." add the following.
  • Add the paragraph: "On January 20, 1859, Watson Augustus Bray built a home on a property they called "Oak Tree Farm" in the neighborhood of Fruitvale. Bray and his wife had a daughter named Emma Bray, who married Alfred Henry Cohen on February 28, 1884, at her parents home in Fruitvale. As a wedding present, Emma's parents built her a seventeen-room house, now called the Alfred H. Cohen House or the Cohen Bray House, nearby. The building was officially listed on the National Register of Historic Places on June 19, 1973, and placed on the List of Oakland Designated Landmarks. The Cohen House stands as one of the original residences remaining from the 19th-century era in the Fruitvale area.

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Greg Henderson (talk) 16:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I would be willing to add, but it needs to be trimmed. The article covers the neighborhood as a whole, so it shouldnt go into such detail on the building's history, like its date of addition to the NRHP or into the intricacies of any family marriages. I would rewrite it to cover the most important facts in general: when it was built, by who, and that it remains one of the few 19th century landmarks in the area. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 14:28, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Cristiano Tomás: Thanks for helping out. I've shortened it a bit and removed the reference to NRHP.

• Add the paragraph: "On January 20, 1859, Watson Augustus Bray built a home on a property they called "Oak Tree Farm" in the neighborhood of Fruitvale. They built a seventeen-room house as a wedding present for their daughter, now called the Alfred H. Cohen House in Fruitvale, which remains one of the few 19th century landmarks in the area.
• Note, please use the above citations.

Greg Henderson (talk) 15:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)