Talk:Friedrich Alfred Krupp

Latest comment: 2 years ago by LlywelynII in topic Euphemisms

Cause of death

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The German Wikipedia states the cause of death as either a stroke or a suicide. The reputable monograph from Epkenhans and Stremmel notes the cause as "ungeklärt" (unsettled, unknown). So I think we should keep it uncertain in this article. Note that "not a suicide" does not imply "independant of the accusations", a stroke or a heart attack may depend on psychic stress. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 15:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

"Weapons of mass destruction"?

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Krupp is said to have been the major supplier of "weapons of mass destruction". This term normally refers to chemical and nuclear weapons, the former of which only came into use in World War I and the latter in World War II, years after Krupp's death. The Krupp company produced heavy metal military goods such as cannons and armor (especially for ships), but cannons are not considered "weapons of mass destruction". The only thing that might be considered a "weapon of mass destruction" prior to World War I is the machine gun, but Krupp did not manufacture small arms. The term "weapons of mass destruction" is clearly an exaggeration in this context and should be removed; the appropriate term is "heavy weapons".--Death Bredon (talk) 10:46, 28 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

Clear Political Bias

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Characterizing the Kaiser's response to a blackmailer's attempt to force him into outting and imprisoning a close family friend as "alarmed by her boldness" is absurd. The wiki goes on to tacitly defend her actions as saying she was concerned for the reputation of the arms manufacturer and tacitly implied the Kaiser's retaliation was unjust. The source used is clearly biased as well. We do not know the Kaiser's inner state but it is far more likely he was concerned for the well being of a friend whose wife was blackmailing him rather than afraid of a woman because she was capable for stringing a few sentences together. This is clearly political commentary and the speculation as to the emperor's internal reasoning should be deleted. 2600:100F:B034:7447:8161:D516:D1DA:5DAB (talk) 05:35, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hard labor?

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"Under Paragraph 175 homosexual acts were punishable by years of hard labor."

§175 says nothing about hard labor. It merely prescribes a prison sentence, "ist mit Gefängniß zu bestrafen". See https://lexetius.com/StGB/175,72A02:AA1:1020:7816:C068:2AC0:E90D:2809 (talk) 08:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Euphemisms

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assuming informal internet sources are right and a direct line can be drawn from F.A. Krupp's outing to the Italian euphemism "Berliner" and French and English euphemisms "the German vice", the connection should be well sourced and included here, possibly in an existing paragraph or possibly in a Legacy section. — LlywelynII 16:08, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Reply