Talk:French franc

Requested move

Corrected the mention that the author of Le Petit Prince's name was mispelt on the 100FF note. It was merely irregularly spelt ```` Derek Northcutt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.166.215.135 (talk) 19:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

The over capitalisation should be removed.

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~

• Support. The standard way of displaying currency names. – AxSkov (T) 08:50, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Support. Why do we even need a poll on this? All the others were moved without polls. Am I missing something? ナイトスタリオン…ㇳ–ㇰ 10:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

An adminstrator has to make the move if the redirect has a history of more than one edit. Philip Baird Shearer 02:34, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thank you. ナイトスタリオン…ㇳ–ㇰ 08:48, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

• Support. Philip Baird Shearer 02:34, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I've moved the article and corrected the only double redirect; there are still plenty of articles pointing to a redirect, so if anyone would like to go through those... --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:10, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Pictures

This article has very few pictures compared to the articles on many other European currencies. Can I request that someone either add some pictures or set up a French coins and French banknotes articles to link to?
Dove1950 22:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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World War I

• "The outbreak of World War I caused France to leave the gold standard of the LMU. The war severely undermined the franc's strength, as war expenditure, inflation and postwar reconstruction, financed partly through the printing of ever more money, reduced the franc's purchasing power by 70% from 1915 to 1920 and a further 43% from 1922 to 1926. After a brief return to the gold standard (1928 to 1936) the currency was allowed to resume its slide, until it was worth in 1959 less than a fortieth of its 1934 value."

This paragraph is unclear. Did the return to the gold standard cause a revaluation of the franc? If so, by how much? How does its 1934 value compare with its 1915, 1922, 1928 or 1936 value? Scolaire 15:07, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

under European Monetary Union section of this article someone has added the profound observation that "French people are gay". Doesn't anybody monitor these articles' edits?24.4.17.233 (talk) 04:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

a question

any one know what 4 francs 2 dines 3 quarters of a doller and 10 centines are in english curreny if so please right next to forigin currency —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.38.139 (talk) 12:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Are you for real? Scolaire (talk) 00:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

yes i am for real i dont know and i whant to know what they are so i can exchange them for english money —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.38.139 (talk) 12:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

You would pay more for the transaction than you would get! Scolaire (talk) 21:44, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

English money? Are you planning a trip to pre-1707? --86.111.162.127 (talk) 01:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

did you know that french money is called francs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.122.173 (talk) 21:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I removed the very first top link to French coins since it contained Google Adsense ad on top of it and Ebay items for sale table, both commercial and both took more than half the space on the page. If user wants to provide a material to Wikipedia, their links must not contain any clickthru ads or commercial sales info. Posting links which contain clickthru ads such as Google Adsense is considered clickthru ad spamming. Audriust (talk) 20:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Translation

The translation of the Latin into English (Johannes gratia dei, etc.) was rendered in English, except for the name of the monarch, which was in French: "Jean." Either translate the Latin to English or to French, or to another language, but don't jumble them together. "Johannes" may be "Jean" in French, but it is "john" in English. Since the remainder of the quotation is in English, so should the name be. I have changed it. Altgeld (talk) 19:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The moneychanger

Does anybody have a figure for converting francs to US$ in 1911? If so, can you add it to the purse numbers here & here? If there's a template, use it? And if there is, will you also ping my talk with it? Thx. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 03:36 & 03:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Here is a table sheet for exchange rate from 1866 to 1914 (source:J.M. Jeanneney/Bourse de Paris) :

Unit	Pure Silver in g	Rate in FFr	Exchange Rate	Comment
1 Fr	4.175			1 Fr = 5 g x 0.835
1 US $	24.057	5.762	5.183	-10% tax
1 Mark	4.995	1.196	1.25	inc. trade bonus
1 GB £	5.231	1/ = 1.253	1£ = 25.221 Fr
1 Rouble	17.995	4.31	3.88	-10% tax
1 Gulden	9.45	2.263	2.25

These equivalences provided by the Banque de France, it must be noted, are in New Francs (in 1960 two zeroes were lopped off the old francs. So, for example, in 1914 $US 1 would have been 576.2 FF, or the equivalent of 5.762 post-1960 French Francs. ```` Northcutt -- Spiessens 17:24, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Historical exchange rates

Is there any way of getting a table of historical exchange rates for the French Franc on here? I'm trying to find out what the Franc/Pound exchange rate would have been in 1954. Can anyone suggest where i could look for this information? Thanks. Kaleeyed (talk) 11:24, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I've just Googled "historical exchange rates" and found a site that goes back to 1953, [I'm trying the same thing, but for 1940 !] Is that any (belated) help?

RASAM (talk) 15:52, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Sources to consider for inclusion

found items which have not been incorporated but might help content

• Keller, Greg (18 February 2012). "Farewell to the franc". The News Journal. Associated Press. Retrieved 19 February 2012.

  --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 19:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Info completed

I try to do my best about french coins history... hope it will be usefull. -- Spiessens 21:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiessens (talk • contribs)

Banknotes

Authors failed to mention John Law system from year 1716 - 1720. Also date when first assignats were printed is not correct. First assignats were printed a few years earlier then mentioned, namely in year 1791. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.91.111.135 (talk) 13:41, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Federal establishment?

The section headed French Empire and Restoration begins by stating In 1800 the Banque de France, a federal establishment .... In what sense was the Banque de France "federal"? France was not a federation, and this sounds like an inadvertent carry over from the U.S. Norvo (talk) 22:39, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Cite needed

Both F and Fr are obviously official abbreviations, since both appear on the currency itself as displayed in the page. Still, it would be nice to have a source for their use and an explanation if possible about different eras when each was preferred. — LlywelynII 23:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Foreign exchanges well after the end of circulation of the French Franc, why?

Is there a need to have the foreign exchange chart have exchanges well after the end of circulation of the French Franc? I mean having them for some of its history is fine, but most of that chart is made up of exchanges for current currencies with only like 4 or 5 years worth of Franc exchange rates, if someone would just either simplify it or use years that the Franc was available. Sion8 (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

French Franc use in the Channel Islands

As already identified in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernsey_pound the French franc was legal tender in other jurisdictions than those mentioned in the existing article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.106.228 (talk) 12:17, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox: is F (and Fr) a symbol or an abbreviation?

I suggest that it is more correct to call it an abbreviation. The ₣ ligature would qualify as a symbol but, since it never got off the drawing board, it would be misleading to give it as the symbol. Anyone disagree? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 08:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

It's not about "looks like used as ..", it shouold be sourced. If X is a symbol, we expect banknotes & coins showing it. Abbr is when in prose only, not amounts. DePiep (talk) 08:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The symbol $ does not appear on US notes or coins. So it is not the currency symbol for the US dollar?

Is the form £E for the Egyptian Pound an abbreviation or a symbol? It was used both as a prefix and as an abbreviation in running text. I think the same is true of FF (but not F). Of course examples of use don't make valid citations but we will struggle to find documents setting these distinctions out clearly. For ex, World Bank Style Guide gives abbreviations but not symbols. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:11, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

The symbol $ does not appear on US notes or coins. -- you are joking, right? Don't have time for this. DePiep (talk) 12:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

We have resolved the major point elsewhere (per wp:DUCK and semantics) so this discussion is closed: if it is used as a symbol and read as a symbol then it is a symbol.

But no, I am not joking. See Coins of the United States dollar: no circulating coin has a $ sign, only the "$1" (nominal) bullion coin. Ditto United States dollar#Banknotes: I see no $ signs. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2022 (UTC)