Talk:Freddie Mills

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Jakessheep in topic Life With The Lyons

Reference edit

I just tuned into the end of a program on ITV1 (UK) which started at 12:15am called "Nightwatch with steve scott" which examines famous murders. It provided much information which seems to back up this article, but I've missed most of it! If anyone saw the whole thing, they could probably verify more of this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.21.78 (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Some years ago, as an Hon member of the London ex-boxers' association, I attended a ceremony in a Bournemouth Park, where a memorial was unveiled in memory of Freddie Mills. I cannot find any mention of this. either in Freddie Mills' personal history, or in information about the town of Bournemouth. I believe the existence of this memorial justifies publicity. Nevill Joseph, OBE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.49.31 (talk) 18:01, 11 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Improvements edit

I've added a few refs, which takes the article up to start class. The annoying thing, as I know from my Horse Racing articles, is that Newspapers during WW2 were very restricted, for obvious reasons. I think it's coming along nicely though.  Tigerboy1966  12:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Lurid rumours edit

Not altogether happy about the section on the rumours that followed Mills suicide. There are no contemporary news sources (which is what I usually prefer) but well regarded sources like the Guardian and the Observer seemed happy to report them years later.  Tigerboy1966  18:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

"In 2002, a book about Mills was to come out, with allegations that he killed 8 women and had a homosexual relationship with singer Michael Holliday and possibly also with Ronnie Kray."

Well, it's 2016--did the book ever come out? Was it well-researched with sources, or like this section of wikipedia's article? Seriously, if there are no adequate sources, this entire section needs to be removed.You are supposed ot be a reputable website, not a bunch of little boys sniggering behind the school. 2601:80:C102:27C5:ADFC:1C51:B5A5:2C5D (talk) 21:33, 30 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Place of Birth edit

Is there a reliable source that says Mills was born in Parkstone? The more common story is that he was born and raised in Terrace Road, Bournemouth. There is even a plaque dedicated to him at the Littledown Centre.--Ykraps (talk) 13:50, 9 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

As there has been no discussion on this subject, I am being Bold and changing the information in the article. Interestingly the Terrace Road area was once part of the Branksome estate but this was over 100 years before Mills' birth.--Ykraps (talk) 19:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Successful night club, but heavily in debt to gangsters? edit

There seems to be an obvious conflict in these two statements. Why would he be in debt to gangsters in these circumstances unless he was living beyond his means?46.7.195.132 (talk) 21:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

I don't see it as a conflict necessarily. There are many reasons why someone might refuse to pay a debt, of which, not having the money is only one.--Ykraps (talk) 10:37, 3 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
Possible explanations that have been put forward were that Mills was being forced to pay protection money or was the victim of extortion. In Bill Bavin's book, he describes an arson attempt on the nightclub by what he considered to be a group pf gangsters, possibly in response to Mills refusing to pay them. --Michig (talk) 17:17, 12 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Not looking to be pedantic, but there is a world of difference between being in debt and being extorted. But I'll leave it at that.46.7.195.132 (talk) 18:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Was his Chinese Restaurant opened in 1946 or 1948? edit

Referring to the book Jack of Jumps by David Seabrook (Granta Books, 2006), page 252, it is ambiguous from the text whether the business was formed in 1946 or 1948 (or even 1947) as both 1946 and 1948 are mentioned in the boxing context and then it goes directly on to a mention of the restaurant but with no formation date listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.252.68 (talk) 21:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Life With The Lyons edit

Freddie appeared in an episode of this radio series. 85.255.232.28 (talk) 20:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Episode date was 25th October 1951. Jakessheep (talk) 21:00, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply