Talk:Fred T. Goldberg Jr.

Libelous

The section on scientology, mentioning uncited rumors, it certainly bordering on libel.

Either substantiate the claims or remove them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.203.18.206 (talk • contribs).

• Reputable sourced citations are already included in that subsection, however more will be provided. The sentences are already tagged with {{fact}} Smee 06:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC).

No unsourced sentence in a biography of a living person should begin with the phrase "There is a rumor..." Do you understand the policy on Wikipedia:libel? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 151.203.18.206 (talk • contribs).

This section on Scientology is libelous and offensive. It is a complete fabrication that taints the reputation of a good man and a religion. Extremists cannot accept that this ruling was based on the facts and issued in good faith. Wcdc (talk) 20:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Article needs expansion

• This article needs expansion. The whole Scientology controversy was reported on by multiple reputable secondary sources. I will try to expand the article, and add some (10) or so additional citations about this incident. Smee 07:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC).
  • I have a little list. [1][2] AndroidCat (talk) 06:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Notable?

This article mainly seems to exist for the purpose of complaining about the IRS/CoS settlement. There is nothing very notable about Mr. Goldberg mentioned except for rumors about his possible involvement with that. Steve Dufour 00:31, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I decided to take out the whole section as well as the Project Scientology tag on this page because of BLP problems mentioned above. Steve Dufour 10:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Scientology section

I restored the Scientology section; it should never have been deleted. These allegations are sourced to The New York Times; it's absurd that we had nothing on the issue for over a year. Feel free to fix it to be more neutral if you think it could use some tweaking in that direction, but don't just remove the section.—Chowbok ☠ 18:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

The IRS performed an investigation in to the alleged Scientology racketeering that resulted in the IRS tax exemption being granted by Fred Goldberg, and an ROI -- Report Of Investigation -- was written, a 21-page document which (by IRS and U.S. Treasury tradition) has always historically been available to the general public under a FOIA Freedom Of Information Act request.

The IRS responded by claiming that the document could not be released due to it containing "matters of national security."

When I challenged that the IRS took several months to respond to my challenge, this time informing me that the ROI could not be released because they could not find the ROI despite the fact that I had the ROI's number, date of publication, page count, and summary description of content.

When I challenged that, the IRS took several more months to respond a third time, claiming that the ROI "contains return information" by which they claimed the ROI contained details about the Scientology crime syndicate's tax return numbers and invited me to contact the U. S. Treasury for any further appeals to my FOIA.

Obviously the ROI that was written in the aftermath of the internal criminal investigation contains embarrassing information, presumably containing details on how Goldberg was pressured in to capitulating and granting illegal tax exemption.

Once the ROI -- however fragmentary and redacted -- eventually gets released, I'll update this Wikipedia entry with the document since it would be highly relevant to Fred Goldberg's biography given as he's responsible for a criminal enterprise literally being handed billions in unpaid taxes, a phenomena that is not unique among organized crime syndicates but rather unheard of among legitimate for-profit corporations.

It means I need to file the FOIA request once again and, as one attorney informed me, go through the process to sue the IRS for full disclosure. Damotclese (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Here is one of the letters received which offers the ROI's number and confirms the document's existence despite the IRS claiming they can not locate the report. Perhaps other editors could request the document through FOIA and, if the IRS concedes and releases it, update the article with the relevant information:

This is in response to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated September 7, 2001, seeking access to records maintained by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA.)

We received your request on September 18, 2001. Specifically, you asked for a copy of TIGTA report "9-9801-0002" and "additional investigative documentation both public and private which covers allegations both confirmed and suspected of blackmail, extortion, and other traditional racketeering activities instigated by the Church of Scientology which may have motivated the Closing Agreement."

A review of the TIGTA indices revealed that one (1) file is responsive to your request for a copy of TIGTA report "8-9801-0002." TIGTA Report Of Investigation (ROI) # 8-9801-0002 consists of one hundred and twenty-three (123) pages.

Sixty-two (62) of these pages constitute informayion (sic) which originated with the IRS; we are therefore referring those pages to the IRS for a release determination and a direct reply to you.

If you have any questions concerning these records, you may contact that agency at the following address:

• Internal Revenue Service
• HQ Disclosure Office
• CL:GLD:A2:HQD
• Room 1571
• 1111 Constitution Avenue, NW
• Washington, DC 20224 Damotclese (talk) 17:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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*3 citations, no images. Article needs expansion, more citations. Smee 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC).

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