Talk:Fountain Creek (Arkansas River tributary)

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Hi Denverjeffrey,

Is there a particular reason for changing the image? I think the one that was there is a nice one and is what the area around Fountain Creek looks like much of its travels from Ute Pass to the Fountain area.–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

The reason is that I believe the new picture represents the subject much better and more appropriately than the former one does. The former picture has several significant weaknesses. First, the picture claims to be of the river, but looking closely, this claim is very uncertain. It looks much more like a reservoir or a pond in a park than a river (or creek). I think a representative picture for an article on a river (creek) ought to show the subject as a member of the class of geographical features it falls into. Don't use a picture of an offramp to represent an interstate, for example. Second, the picture is lacking geolocation data, so it's not easily possible to confirm that it is really a picture of the river it claims to be, especially since it looks much more like a pond in a park than a river. The title of the article is Fountain Creek (Arkansas River), so capturing the river at its very mouth reflects its essence as named in the article's title. Best wishes, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 21:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC).

Jeffrey Beall, Ah, some very good points. Yes, looking closely at the image I think you're right. I am almost positive it's taken from about here, looking east. If I can get some pretty pictures of Fountain Creek with lots of trees, and the location information, would that work? I might already have something, but could take something if I don't.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Or, do you have one without the broken pylons - or a little more scenic/treed?–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

If you just want to put pretty pictures on the internet, let me submit to you that this is not the appropriate place. I refer you to Flickr, etc. The article is not about trees; it is about a specific creek in Colorado. The mouth of a stream is one of the most significant and important components of that stream, and I think the current picture documents it and the stream well. The exposed pilings are a part of the history of the creek and its confluence with the Arkansas, so they are a valuable part of the picture and its role in documenting the subject of the article. Certainly with your valuable historical contributions you understand this. Jeffrey Beall (talk) 23:51, 18 July 2018 (UTC).

Yikes, seems like I struck a nerve.

With my historical knowledge, and that of the weather here in Colorado, I know that the best place to find trees in the flatlands is around creeks or rivers. I also know that most of Fountain Creek is surrounded by trees, from Ute Pass, along Cimmarron and Midland Trail, south along the Pikes Peak Greenway and Fountain Creek Nature Center and some of the way to Pueblo. And, it was the trees along Fountain Creek that built the area's first cabins and houses. So, when I think of Fountain Creek, I think of trees. Sorry.

For right now, let's just leave this picture and perhaps after awhile we can switch it up with another view. In the meantime, can you perhaps explain in the caption what the historical significance of the pilings is? That would be interesting.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)