Talk:Foul (basketball)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Spike-from-NH in topic Missing data

Merge?

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In line with the apparent year-old consensus to merge this article into Personal foul (basketball), I have rewritten it.

  • The Intro is limited to an overview of the subject. I removed some repetition with the section on Flagrant fouls.
  • The sections on various classes of foul are small and mostly designed as an overview, with all the details given in the target article. I added one section, as conduct that is not called a foul at all deserves mention, as well as the referees' desire to balance the degree of foul-calling, for which there is a citation in the NBA rulebook.
  • The next section was entitled Team fouls as though it were yet another class of foul. In fact, it is a way to analyze fouls in the classes already set out (primarily personal fouls). This section ought to eventually go away, as the material is presented better in Bonus (basketball), but I am not yet convinced the reader will find it there and won't look for it here.
    Upon further review, "Bonus" does the job; this section is deleted, though there is a stub section that defines "team fouls." Spike-from-NH (talk) 14:53, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply
  • A section that did nothing but point to Hack-a-Shaq is gone, as I now mention the strategy in Personal foul (basketball).
  • A note that home-court advantage affects foul-calling chiefly applies to personal fouls, was already present in the article on personal fouls, and I removed it from there too, as it asserted without citation that referees don't call games evenly.

It seems this article shouldn't be completely merged but should continue to exist as an overview of fouls in general (not just personal fouls). I'm happy to refine the text further in response to feedback. Spike-from-NH (talk) 03:43, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Missing data

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The article has "The player committing the foul 'fouls out' of the game." The term "fouls out" is not explained. It also implies that the person fouls out by committing a single foul of any type.

"The player committing the foul is suspended from some number of subsequent games." This is not explained and also implies that a person who commits a single foul is suspended for one or more games.

"Some of the penalties listed above are assessed only if a player or a team commits a number of fouls above a specified limit." What are the specified limits for the various leagues?

The article does not mention the intentional use of fouls towards the end of a game.

The article does not mention the term "a foul to give."

The article does not mention the term "take a foul."

Are fouls identical across all basketball leagues? If not, then the article should explain the differences. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

This article is primarily a directory to the preexisting articles on the different types of foul. For example, intentionally fouling is covered in detail at Personal foul (basketball). That article also has "foul to give" and differences among leagues. The implication that a single foul draws the harshest penalties is contradicted by the sentence beneath the list, "Some of the penalties listed above are assessed only if a player or a team commits a number of fouls above a specified limit." Your concerns are also addressed in the section For more details. Spike-from-NH (talk) 13:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)Reply