Talk:Ford Mondeo (fourth generation)

Fourth generation, but Mk5

Charles01, the Mk5 designation was widely used for the model described here. Calling it the fourth generation makes some sense, but calling the Mk4 does not - users, and used car sites, call it the Mk5.

The introduction to this article used to describe it as fourth-generation, Mk5 and I would leave that part unchanged. Edits to this article since March 2020 were only making it more confusing.

Cars known in online forums as the Mk1 and the Mk2 are collectively described, at least in wiki articles, as the first generation. Copypasting from the article Ford Mondeo:

Generation (with photo)	Ford platform	Introduction	Model years
First generation (Mk1)	Ford CDW27 CD162 (Mk II) CD132 (Mk III)	1992	1993-1996
First generation facelift (Mk2 - The first-generation Mondeo was facelifted in 1996, and although it shared most of the mechanical components of the pre-facelift version, it is widely referred to as the Mk II, such is the difference in appearance.)		1996	1997-2000
Second generation (Mk3)		2000	2001-2007
Third generation (Mk4)	Ford EUCD (CD345)	2006	2007-2010
Third generation facelift (Mk4)		2010	2010-2014
Fourth generation (Mk5)	Ford CD4 (CD391)	2012	2014-present

Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 03:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Not sure why you ping me with this one, but here are my slightly informative but essentially inconclusive thoughts before breakfast:

The car is marketed as a "world car". The western European ones were assembled in Belgium for a number of years and then disappeared for a bit while Ford told anyone who cared enough to ask that European production was shifting to Spain. Presumably after a long pause it did that, but any remaining customers for that market segment have increasingly switched to Volkswagens and Skodas in the meatime in most of the major central and western European markets, (plus Peugeots if you're in France: I don't know if they bothered with assembling and selling significant numbers of Mondeos in a Russian Ford plant) while customers continue with their switching to differently shaped and / or smaller bigger cars. I don't think you are going to impose a one-size fits all solution on what to call the different generations of Mondeo round the world from wikipedia.

I'm not really sufficiently up to speed with the different designations used for different model types in the US, in England, in Belgium, in Spain, in Germany, in Austrialia to be able to contribute usefully to a "one-size fits all readers" solution. The good(?) news, as far as I remember, is that Ford haven't dived into Chinese and Indian manufacturing on any scale significant enough to be noticable. No doubt if they had, different (again) designation rules and customs for the various Mondeo versions would apply in each.

Logically, for wikipedia purposes, the least bad solution is probably to avoid mention of "generations" and "marks" and simply use "Mondeo 1992-1996", "Mondeo 1997-2000", "Mondeo 2001-2007" etc., based on "model years", actual years of sale from the new car show rooms, or years of production (which of course vary according to continent). But you may think making all those changes is a disproportionately major undertaking, given the likellihood that folks are unlikely to agree, whichever solution you favo(u)r. Be well. Charles01 (talk) 06:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Referring to a generation with 'Mk' is generally a British thing, so the more common 'generation' designation should take precedence. Looking at reliable sources from the UK, both the RAC and Auto Express refer to this generation as Mk4. Unless there are more authoritative sources that say otherwise, we use Mk4 for this generation. ExcitedEngineer (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2020 (UTC)