Talk:Florence Ashley
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List of useful media articles to be added. edit
The following is a (currently unsorted) list of useful media articles that could be added in various parts of the article:
- https://xtramagazine.com/culture/trans-conversion-practices-florence-ashley-220924
- https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2021/10/19/you-can-say-woman-and-we-can-say-person.html
- https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/anti-transgender-narratives-canada-1.6232947
- https://www.wired.com/story/for-marginalized-groups-being-studied-can-be-a-burden/
- https://transsafety.network/posts/florence-ashley-conversion-book-interview/
- https://nationalmagazine.ca/en-ca/articles/people/profiles/2019/en-gendering-change
- https://www.uc.utoronto.ca/news/amplifying-trans-voices - 2021 Trans day of visibility interview
- https://www.who.int/news/item/18-12-2023-who-announces-the-development-of-a-guideline-on-the-health-of-trans-and-gender-diverse-people
- https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/hq-hiv-hepatitis-and-stis-library/biographies_tgd-gdg_proposed_members_2024.pdf?sfvrsn=5b1e7491_3
- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12917509/WHO-accused-trans-bias-calling-self-ID-right-transgender-care.html
- https://xtramagazine.com/culture/be-gay-do-crime-explained-263699
The following is a (currently unsorted) list of secondary articles citing Ahsley:
The following is a (currently unsorted) list of sources that I can’t identify if are primary or secondary
Sources that talk about Ashley’s work in a negative context:
- https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/bioethicist-transgender-children-should-decide-whether-to-transition/ - Editorial, doesn’t mention Ashley by name but does discuss a paper of theirs
Reviews of Ashley’s books:
- https://harvardlawreview.org/print/vol-136/made-to-feel-broken-ending-conversion-practices-and-saving-transgender-lives/
- https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/09685332231193957
- https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/lgbt.2022.0111?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub++0pubmed
- https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/doc/2023CanLIIDocs2056
- https://nationalmagazine.ca/en-ca/articles/law/access-to-justice/2022/banning-transgender-conversion-practices
Awards Ashley has received:
- SOGIC - already mentioned in article
- https://www.droit-inc.com/article24225-Une-1ere-auxiliaire-juridique-trans-a-la-Cour-supreme French language article on winning the SOGIC award.
- https://www.law.utoronto.ca/news/florence-ashley-sjd-receives-adel-s-sedra-distinguished-graduate-award 2022 Adel S. Sedra Distinguished Graduate Award
- https://www.law.utoronto.ca/news/doctoral-student-florence-ashley-receives-u-ts-peter-singer-award-in-bioethics 2021 University of Toronto’s Peter Singer Award in Bioethics
Regarding citation by UN independent expert:
Regarding National Assembly testimony:
- https://www.assnat.qc.ca/fr/travaux-parlementaires/commissions/crc-42-1/journal-debats/CRC-201105.html
- https://www.assnat.qc.ca/fr/travaux-parlementaires/commissions/ci-42-2/journal-debats/CI-211202.html
Need to find:
- Secondary sources analysing or citing their work
- Articles about Florence that aren’t interviews of them.
More to add to this as I find it. Sideswipe9th (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- My primary concern right now is overuse of WP:PRIMARY sources, via interviews with Ashley. There’s a couple of notability hurdles that need to be addressed before we can consider pushing this draft for review. Accordingly we need to look at WP:NBASIC for general biographical notability, or WP:NACADEMIC for academic notability. I think we’ll have a stronger case for NACADEMIC than NBASIC, given Ashley’s work. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:00, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- What we really need at the moment are WP:SECONDARY sources. Anything where Ashley’s work has been reviewed, either by their peers or wider audience. Is there any reviews of Ashley’s recent book we can cite? Are there any sources, aside from their University of Toronto profile page that mentions their work being cited by the UN Independent Expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity? Or their legal contributions to the Qubec National Assembly? Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:05, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have added links above to the UN report and to the Natioanl Assembly hearings, but they are the official report/transcript rather than a secondary source.
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Change: In 2023, Ashley was one of 21 members appointed to the World Health Organization’s guideline development group concerning the health of trans and gender diverse people.[15]
To: In 2023, Ashley was one of 21 members appointed to the World Health Organization’s Guideline Development Group concerning the health of trans and gender diverse people,[15] but as of January 15, 2024, they was no longer listed as a proposed member of that group.[insert citation below]
Citation: https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/hq-hiv-hepatitis-and-stis-library/biographies_tgd-gdg_proposed_members_2024.pdf Bert Adan (talk) 12:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Done with an explanation of why. “They was” changed to “they were” per rest of article. Thriftycat Talk • Contribs 12:29, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
