Talk:Field Museum of Natural History

Does Sue have a head or not?

The text states that the head is too heavy to be mounted with the body, and is instead on the second floor balcony. Yet right next to that is a picture of the skeleton, head and all. So does it have head or not? The pictures below imply that there was some change made in 2005 but it's not explained in the article at all. Pimlottc 13:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

There is an immitation head placed on the skeleton so that the skeleton can be viewed as if in its entirety. Israelite9191 00:33, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The actual skull of Sue weighs several hundred pounds, and would have necessitated an additional support column, detracting from the aethetics of the mount. Additionally, the skull was distorted severely to one side, due to being buried in the ground for 67 million years. Therefor, a mold and cast was made of the bone, the distortions were corrected, and the cast was placed on the skeleton, in May of 2000, when she was unveiled. The real skull is in a case on the balcony, so that you can view the real head up close and personally. Fossilpreparator 23:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The head could be suspended with wires from ceiling beams. But that wouldnt work, because that would require modifications to the museum structure, and would take away from the original, historical essence of the 1922 architecture. Potential damage to the building would also occur. 206.192.35.125 (talk) 16:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Redirect page

Sue the dinosaur redirects here...shouldn't she have her own page? RJASE1 04:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

There is a lot of information about Sue, and she is a very important discovery, but there is not enough information on this page for Sue to have her own page. If you have more information and write it, then you could create such a page. Dylan 15:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject South Dakota addition

Added this page to the project due to Sue's discovery in South Dakota. RJASE1 04:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article will require some work. The whole temporary exhibits section could be cut to one line. If people want to know the temp exhibits at any given time they can check the museum website. As it is that information is unencyclopeidic as far as I can tell.A mcmurray 03:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I am a volunteer at the museum. I will begin the cleanup process immediately. Dylan 15:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Old and Oudated

The 'Temporary exhibits' section is outdated and requires work! --98.193.61.220 (talk) 04:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Film appearances

The Field Museum lobby is seen in the closing shots of Damien: Omen II, a circa 1980 film. Check that film's article. WHPratt (talk) 20:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Publications of the Field Museum

Please create a works section or bibliography for the publications of the museum.

• Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 10
• Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 13
• Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 14
  • Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 14 (duplicate from other source)
• Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 15
• Publication: Anthropological series, Volume 15, Issue 3 By Berthold Laufer

http://books.google.com/books?id=Re9KAAAAYAAJ&q=kiu+wu+tai+shi&dq=kiu+wu+tai+shi&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4haoUJeJNYfp0gGf2YDwDQ&ved=0CFUQ6AEwCA

http://books.google.com/books?id=9E1SAQAAIAAJ&q=kiu+wu+tai+shi&dq=kiu+wu+tai+shi&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4haoUJeJNYfp0gGf2YDwDQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwCQ

Rajmaan (talk) 02:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

History - Name Change

The description of the change of name is incomplete. It implies that the museum's name changed from Columbian Museum of Chicago to Field Museum of Natural History in 1905. This is clearly incomplete as in 1901 one of its publications appeared under the name Field Columbian Museum. It is clear that the Field name was added earlier than 1905; further investigation into the sources to clarify the changing name is called for. SteveMcCluskey (talk) 19:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Found the appropriate reference. Revision done. SteveMcCluskey (talk) 19:21, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

The Brain Scoop

Popular YouTube show The Brain Scoop is moving from the Philip L. Wright Zoological Museum to The Field Museum, soon. See this blog post by Emily Graslie (embedded in the followup by Hank Green) explaining the situation. (Therefor: An army of curious nerdfighters will probably be visiting this page, in the near future ;) –Quiddity (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 04 March 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move as requested an err in nomination rationale noted probably contributed to this lack of consensus as Field Museum of Natural History is the official name per IRS filings IRS 990 2012 not The Field Museum which is their brand name. Mike Cline (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Field Museum of Natural History → The Field Museum – The Field Museum is the official name of the museum, "of Natural History" was used before 1996 – Graham (talk) 19:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

• @Lemontina9: But is the name "Field Museum" distinctive enough by itself? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
• @Anthony Appleyard: There are other museums with the word "Field" in their names, but none that are named after people named "Field" or that use "Field" as their primary name. Most that I found were related in some way to airfields. Here are some examples: Kimchi Field Museum Victoria Falls Field Museum March Field Air Museum Candler Field Museum Minter Field Air Museum Graham (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose current proposed title. Per Wikipedia's policy on article titles, it should be the common name used by most reliable sources, not the official name. Furthermore, I fail to find evidence that it fulfills the requirements on Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name). Field Museum is currently already being used as a primary topic redirect, therefore, there is really no change in meaning with respect to the same word without the "the". In addition, the "the" appears to not always be capitalized in running text.[1][2] I am not opposed to moving the article over the redirect, provided there is evidence that "Field Museum" is a more common, primary topic name. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:21, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose per zzyzx11 -- 70.51.200.101 (talk) 06:07, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
• Support We should use the name that the museum refers to itself by. That is common practice on WP. I don't think the museums Lemontina9 will be a problem. Even Kimchi Field Museum, the only one notable enough for its own article is sufficiently different.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
• Support purely as the museum covers a wider range of topics then just Natural History. GregKaye 23:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

• If that's in reference to the culture halls, they are a common component of many (especially older) natural history museums, including the American Museum of Natural History. Dekimasuよ! 16:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

• @Zzyzx11: "The Field Museum" is the most common way of referring to the museum in Chicago (I've never heard anyone refer to it as just "Field Museum", but I'm less worried about the presence or absence of a "The"). There is plenty of evidence of this usage (beyond my own anecdotal experience) in print [3] and news sources [4] Graham (talk)

• What seems to be captured here is a fairly consistent background noise of the phrase "field museum" in running text, and a generally larger amount of references to "Field Museum of Natural History," and thus references to "Field Museum of Natural History" are controlling the shape of the graph; when you add additional terms to a search you will get fewer hits for the longer term.... Dekimasuよ! 16:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

• Comment. If it is moved (and I'm neutral on that point) then it should be to Field Museum, as there's no need for the definite article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
• Support call them what they call themselves. Hugh (talk) 16:49, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
• Apparently the name Field Museum of Natural History was once "more familiar and popular" per this official announcement. I am not opposed to the change if there is evidence to support it, but aside from an assertion there is nothing here to show what name is now more common (or more official, for that matter). Britannica has "Field Museum, in full Field Museum of Natural History." Newspapers using "Field Museum of Natural History" within the last year include the Chicago Tribune, New York Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, The Seattle Times, The Plain Dealer, and the Washington Post, so it doesn't seem to be outdated. Dekimasuよ! 16:04, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
• @Dekimasu: You're correct that in 1966 the museum was renamed "Field Museum of Natural History", but the announcement you're referring to states that "Field Museum of Natural History" is more popular and familiar than the previous official name: "Chicago Natural History Museum" (seen in the bronze plaque, pictured). In fact, the museum changed its name again in the 1990s to "The Field Museum", dropping "of Natural History" (as [5][6] reported in the Chicago Tribune). Since then, it has been referred to by its official name inconsistently in the press, but the majority of coverage (and usage on the museum's website) uses the official name. Of the seven articles in the New York Times mentioning the Field Museum in the last year, five use "The Field Museum exclusively [7][8][9][10][11] and two append "of Natural History" [12] [13] (both referring to the museum in the past, when it went by other names). The Chicago Tribune's coverage overwhelmingly uses "The Field Museum" [14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21] with few exceptions [22][23]. Graham (talk) 23:24, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose including "The" per WP:THE. Third-party sources rarely if ever capitalize "The" in the running text, so it should be excluded. Removing "of Natural History" is probably fine as it's more common.--Cúchullain ^t/c 13:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose on several grounds raised above... best without the the, and far less recognisable, there's a tension between that and being concise but I think the reader experience is far better with the name as is. Also note that nom cites the official name as their entire rationale, but this is almost irrelevant according to WP:AT. Andrewa (talk) 20:33, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wiki Education assignment: ANTH 420 Museum Anthropology

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 10 January 2023 and 2 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Gryphonheart13 (article contribs).

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Wiki Education Project ANTH 420

Hello! I was assigned this article for class and will be editing it periodically until the end of May 2023. I have a detailed project proposal handy if you're interested.

tl;dr version: I'll be doing a major overhaul of the Cultural Halls subsection. With my most recent edit I modified Cultural Hall subsection and created new paragraphs for Africa and Peoples of the Arctic and Northwest Coast. Gryphonheart13 (talk) 20:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

My project is now complete. Here's a summary of changes:

Series 1: I added a paragraph with three hyperlinks to the Cultural Halls Section. I used two references: Kuta [magazine] and Lupton [exhibit review] Series 2: I added a paragraph with two hyperlinks to the Cultural Halls Section. I used two references: Kuta [magazine] and Lupton [exhibit review] I added a few sentences and a reference -- Swyers [journal] -- to the Ancient Americas section. I created a subsection titled "People of the Arctic and Pacific Northwest and added a paragraph with one reference (Lupton) and three hyperlinks. I created a subsection titled "Regenstein Halls of the Pacific" and added a paragraph. The paragraph includes three hyperlinks and three references: Kaeppler [exhibit review], Welsch [journal], and Kahn [journal] I added an image of a totem pole to the Peoples of the Arctic and Pacific Northwest subsection.

Series 3: I added the Africa subsection and wrote a paragraph describing the exhibit. I hyperlinked to five different Wikipedia articles: ethnographic, Sahara, East African rift, African diaspora, and slave trade. I used two references for this edit: Demissie, Fassil; Apter, Andrew [exhibit review] and Welsch, Robert [journal]

Series 4: I added a paragraph to the Ancient Americas section and cited four peer-reviewed sources. I added a sentence to the Peoples of the Arctic and Pacific Northwest sub-section that cited a peer-reviewed source. I created the Cyrus Tang Hall of China subsection and cited two sources. One of them was peer-reviewed. I created the Native Truths: Our Voices. Our Stories subsection and cited two sources. One of them was peer-reviewed. I uploaded and inserted four images related to the cultural halls: an Aztec sunstone, a Yoruba mask, a statue of Wei Tuo, and the Maori Meeting House displayed at the FMNH. Gryphonheart13 (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2023 (UTC)