Talk:Fantasia (performance)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by M.Bitton in topic Tbourida

Erm... in the only picture that we have, they're clearly firing in the ground. (Which strikes me as much more prudent.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.81.0 (talk) 10:13, 15 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Fantasia, also known as lab el baroud ("the gunpowder play"), is a traditional exhibition of horsemanship in the Maghreb region of North Africa. A group of horse riders, all wearing traditional clothes, charge along a straight path at the same speed before firing into the sky using old muskets or muzzle-loading rifles at the end of the charge. It is considered to symbolize a strong relationship between the man and the horse.Photograph: Maxim Massalitin

Article photo edit

To read the description of Fantasia in the article, the fact that the photo shows all shots being fired out of synch and at the ground seems to indicate the photo is of a failed attempt. Is this true, or is there some other description of the event that would lend better context to the photo? Hiberniantears (talk) 23:24, 7 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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December 2022 edit

This edit was reverted because it doesn't make much sense. 1) It's Tbourida (and not Fantasia) that was inscribed on the UNESCO's intangible cultural heritage list. This is mentioned in the appropriate section and there is no reason to give it UNDUE weight. 2) Even if Fantasia was inscribed, it still wouldn't make sense to add that sentence, because contrary what Elkhiar claims, when a state inscribes something on the list, it doesn't mean that it's unique to that country or that it's more special to them than it is to the others. This is explained on the UNESCO's website (here and here), which also mentions the risks involved (loss of variation and meaning, decontextualization, over-commercialization, etc.). M.Bitton (talk) 23:29, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Tbourida edit

I was wondering why there isn’t a separate page for Tbourida. It doesn’t make sense to include it on the Fantasia page if the two are different. Tbourida is pretty popular in Morocco and deserves its own page. Soyouy553 (talk) 20:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Soyouy553, Thank you for starting this discussion. Yes, your suggestion sounds reasonable, and that is exactly what i had in mind as well. SimoooIX (talk) 21:24, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
It's not a different thing, it's just a local variation of it (like the others across the different countries of the Maghreb, each with its own rules). Anything that is specific to it can go in the section that is dedicated to it. M.Bitton (talk) 17:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
As per MOS:INFOBOX, the infobox should be placed in the lead section. Therefore, we have two options: either we move the infobox to the lead section (similar to how Harissa is presented which is consumed throughout the Maghreb) or we create a separate article for Tbourida. Thank you. SimoooIX (talk) 18:45, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
1) Not every article needs an infobox. 2) This one doesn't have one, which is all the better since they tend to create more disputes than we need. If you're referring to the UNESCO thingy, that has already been discussed and it is where it's supposed to be (any attempt at appropriation will not be tolerated). 3) editors are welcome to create separate articles should they wish (so long as they are not pov forks). M.Bitton (talk) 18:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)Reply