Talk:Fangorn
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editEarlier draft read:
Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took pass this forest in the second volume of The Lord of the Rings, The Two Towers. There they meet Gandalf again and travel to Helm's Deep with the Ents.
In "fact" they only met Gandalf in the film version (oh, I'm not typing all that out again, find it yourself). In the book they still thought he was dead until he turned up at Isengard after the Ents had trashed the joint.
Just made an infobox.--Barnikel 18:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Capitalization
editAccording to the LOTR and standard usage, Forest is capitalized, so why is Fangorn Forest a redirect page to Fangorn forest and not the other way around? Clarityfiend 09:23, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
The article about the forest was originally located under the simple "Fangorn" title, but already quite a long time ago it was relocated to "Fangorn forest". The reason for this, as far as I understand, is that Fangorn is also the Sindarin translation of Treebeard, and currently Fangorn is a redirect to Treebeard article. Yet the name is most commonly used about the forest; the Ent is referenced thus only once or twice within the LotR, and I suppose most people would expect to find an article about the forest under the "Fangorn" title. Súrendil 18:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- The forest is nearly always indexed as Fangorn, not Fangorn Forest, and is accordingly named on most maps. Súrendil 18:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
- Support the proposed move. This makes sense. Carcharoth 19:16, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
This article has been renamed from Fangorn forest to Fangorn as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 06:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, if you at any decent map in the world and happen to see a forest it is usually accompanied by the word "forest". I'm moving it back to its original title. Lord of Moria Talk Contribs 12:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Notability
editHave added refs and text that demonstrate notabilty.Tttom1 19:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Map
editMaybe we can fix this article up by adding a map showing where Fangorn Forest is? The one on the Mordor page is good. I'm not that good at wiking so can someone do it for me? Norank (talk) 04:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- You need to fill in a fair use license, and since the one on mordor is not licensed fully then there must be a reason why. I'm not sure if it is acceptable or not to have that map yet. Lord of Moria Talk Contribs 12:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Displaying maps of any regions of Middle-earth on any website that is not authorized to do so by the Tolkien Estate is illegal. Unfortunately the Tolkien Estate does not give such authorizations. I used to run one of the largest Tolkien maps collections on the web, so I know. (cf. Tolkien Estate on French wikipedia) Cush (talk) 21:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Fangorn, forest and character
editWell, I've looked at the sources and despite what's written above, the two secondary sources don't do a great deal to establish notability. Nor is notability really possible to establish; most of the printed and web sources for "Fangorn" are in fact mainly about the entish character Treebeard/Fangorn, mentioning his forest on the side; and the two share the same name, one of them being named for the other (but not clear which). Treebeard is the presiding spirit of the forest and never ventures far from it, so the obvious thing to do is to treat them together, i.e. merge the articles. Given the sourcing situation and the fact they always occur together, I'm going to boldly go and merge them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:26, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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