Talk:Falcons (disambiguation)
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edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: move the page per the discussion below, but I'd suggest instituting some form of bd2412's suggestion in his final comment here to make this more like a dabconcept (though I'm not a big fan of trivia sections). Dekimasuよ! 15:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Falcons → Falcons (disambiguation) – Per WP:PLURALPT. I see nothing on this page to dissuade me from thinking that the clear primary topic of the term is the singular Falcon, by far the most important topic historically, which the various team names and other topics intend to invoke. bd2412 T 22:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
- Copied and pasted per the editor's request: Support - and feel free to copy paste this support onto all similar moves. I think this is now a case for use of technical move rather than full RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:16, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Support as per nom Gregkaye ✍♪ 07:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose this one. Most of the "Falcons" on the dab page are sports teams, which are almost always searched for using the plural name. It's thus more helpful to our readers to keep this as a separate dab page, per WP:PLURALPT. Dohn joe (talk) 13:37, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose per User:Dohn joe, i.e. per WP:PLURALPT (a new Wikilawyer shortcut to me) and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A couple of the sports teams are quite notable and together are at least as likely to be the search target of "Falcons" as the bird genus. — AjaxSmack 00:37, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Obvious. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:37, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - Gotta oppose for this one, the use of the term for sports teams seems like a likely enough use to justify the disambiguation page being at the primary title.--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Comment - the oppose votes seem to be focused on the multiplicity of sports teams, and not at all on the historic significance of the primary topic. This ignores the fact that the bird family, falcons, are so important to human history that we have gone and named a bunch of sports teams after the bird. The fact that things are named after the birds suggests greater primacy for the birds, not less. I would also note that there are many plural animal terms used more popularly for sports teams which are redirected to the singular animal name: Hawks, Eagles, Lions, Tigers, Bears, Jaguars, Badgers. Perhaps the best resolution of this inconsistency would be to merge this page into a "Falcons in popular culture" section of Falcon, thereby noting the popularity of the bird as a team name while grounding this phenomenon in the historical significance of the bird. bd2412 T 15:14, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
- Support Rather obvious, per nominator. I highly doubt people are looking for the sports teams that much more than the birds when entering "falcons", and even if so, nobody would say that "Falcons" mostly refers to some sports team, when they're all named after the birds. —innotata 05:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
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