Talk:Förden and East Jutland Fjorde

EckernFÖRDE

The German article about the town is sure about the meaning of -förde = ford, and there are some other names with the same meaning thoungh sometimes different orthography (in German words without Latin Background "v" is pronounced like "f"), such as Bremervörde, Brevörde (!), Calvörde, Lauenförde, Lemförde, which are far away from the sea, but sitated at a larger or smaller river.

But the old mentions of Eckernförde (here old Danish texts) sometimes call it -forde and somtimes -borg – which doesn't change the meaning of -forde. The meaning of one ist Squirrelford, the meaning of the other Squirrelbury. Near the locality there were (and are) forests of beeches. The peninsula south of the bay is called Dänischer Wohld = Danish wood.--Ulamm (talk) 17:13, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Here is a quote from the German article for Eckernförde (the previously mentioned "fort" was a mistake on my part; simply a case of editing too late in the evening):

der Eckernförder Historiker Jann Markus Witt nennt allerdings zwei Möglichkeiten der Namensdeutung: entweder „Förde bei der Eckernburg“ oder „Eichhörnchenfurt.

A rough translation:

the Eckernfördian historian Jann Markus Witt however mentions two possible name interpretations: either "firth at Eckernburg" or "squirrel-ford".

So, unless I missed something, it states pretty clearly that two possibile interpretations (firth or ford) exist for the origin of the final part of the name. 212.10.92.142 (talk) 18:04, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

"Politikens Nydansk Ordbog": (quote) "Eckernförde" (Southern Schleswig): 1st part [of the word]: "ikorni" (ancient Danish meaning "squirrel"), [this syllable is] also seen in "Ykærnæburgh" in Liber Census Daniæ, a disappeared castle near the town, from which "Borreby" takes its name. 2nd part [of the word] is German "förde", derived from ancient low German "vurt", i.e. the crossing of a stream. Compare with "Königsförde" on the Eider." (unquote) (1994 edition). In short: a fortification was originally located near the modern town. Its location is now unknown, but both the modern town and Borreby take their names from it. It seems a logical match that the Borreby referred to in the Danish text is the modern Eckernförde district of "Borby". A few place names in Dänischwohld beginning with Borg- are likely indicators that area south east of the town must also have been fortified at some point in time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.89.16.138 (talk) 20:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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