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Creator of the article: Malin Randstrom —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malin Tokyo (talk • contribs) 06:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Please refer to Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. On the other hand, all contributions naturally need to conform to relevant Wikipedia policies & guidelines. Tomas e (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Modification MalinLindquist 04:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

• added "as Private" to the rank box

Modification Doktor Musmatta Commissioned Officer

Fänrik is the lowest commissioned officer rank.

Reply: Comissioned Officer

As a result of a reform (Ny Befals Ordning, eary 1980s), NCO, WO, CO were all made officers with the lowest rank set to Fanrik. Also, new officers no longer receive an officer’s commission (Officers fullmakt). That is, a Fanrik is an officer without commission. In other words a non-commissioned officer (NCO). An active officer who was made an officer before 1980 is, indeed, a commissioned officer. However, there should be no one in service today.

Therefore, we should use the more general term officer here.

--Malin Randstrom (talk) 14:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

As this rank is the lowest profesional military rank in Sweden, I changed it accordingly. --Malin Randstrom (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge suggestion

If merged to Second Lieutenant, material on officer's training in Sweden could be salvaged to another article on that subject. Tomas e (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply: Merge Suggestion

Thank you for your suggestion to merge with Second Lieutenant. Currently, this rank does not at all correspond to Second Lieutenant even though it is translated officially to this by the Swedish Armed Forces. Due to the major confusion regarding Swedish ranks cased by the implemenation of the NBO reform 1983, a new two-career-path system is being implemented that will elevate this rank closer to Second Lieutenant. NBO 83 is a very unfortunate social experiment (absurd) where all military personnel should be officers with the lowest professional rank set to Fanrik. You are certainly aware of the hyper inflation of Swedish ranks while the ranks of other nations such as in the US Army and USCM have been constant. In effect Fanrik become what corporals use to be.

The educational information is part of defining the rank and I agree that it should be put somewhere else with a link from this page to that page.

--Malin Randstrom (talk) 13:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Officers training and cadets sction

The section has been moved away to a separate article as suggested --Malin Randstrom (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits regarding vänrikki

I appreciate all your edits; but your claim that a vänrikki, who has only 12 months of military service, is assigned as commander of a battery or company upon mobilization seems very unlikely. Please verify this. --Malin Randstrom (talk) 05:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

A vänrikki will not be assigned a company commander duty. That requires subsequent training in refresher exercises and promotion to at least first lieutenant (yliluutnantti). However, a battery commander duty is much easier and reserve officers are trained to act in such positions during their conscription. --MPorciusCato (talk) 20:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

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