Talk:Everything I Didn't Say/Archive 1

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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Ella Henderson performing in July 2014

• ... that English singer Ella Henderson's second studio album Everything I Didn't Say "makes no attempt to gloss over her own [mental health] struggles"?Source: https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/ella-henderson-everything-i-didn-t-say-album-review-b987192.html
  • ALT1: ... that British singer Ella Henderson suffered panic attacks in her 20s, which led to the delay of her second album Everything I Didn't Say? Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/ella-henderson-on-her-rebirth-with-second-album-everything-i-didnt-say-so-much-happened-to-me-when-i-was-16-i-needed-to-live__35432/
  • reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Childs (printer)

Moved to mainspace by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - n
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - n
• Interesting:

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed:
• Used in article: - n
• Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I'm not seeing the information for either hook in the article. For the first hook, I don't see the quote. For the second hook, I only see one panic attack mentioned in the article. The track listing section needs to be cited. The picture needs to be in the article. SL93 (talk) 03:25, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi SL93, thanks for the review. Yes on hindsight there was an error in the sourcing. I'd attributed a quote about the opening song to the whole album. I've suggested a few alternatives below and added the image into the parent page. Re: sourcing the tracklisting, this is not the case. See WP:TRACKLIST where it states "This is generally assumed and does not need explicit citation in most cases... Only source a track listing if there are exceptional circumstances, such as a dispute about the writers of a certain track". I have interpreted this to mean that a source is not required. The AV notes can be used if necessary but given that there is just one tracklist/version and the album has been released, this doesn't feel controversial. As you can see, the page has changed a lot since it was originally nominated. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 19:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

• ALT3: ... that English singer Ella Henderson's second studio album Everything I Didn't Say was delayed because Henderson "was so lost in terms of who she was as a person"?Source: https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/music/ella-henderson-everything-i-didn-t-say-album-review-b987192.html

• ALT4: ... that English singer Ella Henderson considered calling her second album Chapter Two following her first album Chapter One (2014) but stated that "This isn't just Chapter Two. This is a whole book!", settling on the title Everything I Didn't Say instead?.Source: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/ella-henderson-on-her-rebirth-with-second-album-everything-i-didnt-say-so-much-happened-to-me-when-i-was-16-i-needed-to-live__35432/

There is a rule for DYK that states every section except for plot sections needs to be referenced. I do feel that the DYK rule shouldn't supersede the generally accepted practice so I will approve this nomination, but I'm sure someone will chime in if they find it to be unacceptable. Both hooks are directly cited and the image is fine. SL93 (talk) 17:14, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll add one in just in case ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 18:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

• • @SL93 and Lil-unique1, an ALT4a for punchiness: ... that English singer Ella Henderson almost named her second studio album Chapter Two, but decided instead that "this is a whole book"?
  • A little bit of vagueness and punchiness can invite more readers to click :) no pressure, let me know! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:11, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
    • Pinging Lil-unique1 for thoughts. SL93 (talk) 23:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

SL93 Apologies I've been away for a week! Erm yes - I'm happy with the latest suggestion if it gets it over the line! ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 15:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Approving ALT4a. SL93 (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

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Promoting ALT4a to Prep 7, with the image and "(pictured)". – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:03, 29 April 2022 (UTC)