Talk:Evacuation of Polish civilians from the USSR in World War II
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New Section: Aftermath? Repatriation? edit
It would be very informative to have a section briefly summarising what happened to the Polish refugees after the war, especially the orphaned children.--109.196.118.133 (talk) 02:56, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
More detail edit
I came across this. http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/polish_exodus1942_iran.php Maybe someone could work some of it into this. IT wold also be good for this page to link to more areas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.70.64.66 (talk) 21:15, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
A little more background perhaps? (Terry nyorks (talk) 15:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC))
Misleading title edit
At Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Poles_from_the_USSR#Requested_move_28_June_2016 User:Poeticbent mentioned that this article has misleading title. I think he is right, and this warrants further discussion on how to rename this. The infobox and the lead use the phrase Evacuation of the Polish civilians from the USSR in World War II. Another option, perhaps even better, would be Deportation of the Polish civilians from the USSR in World War II. Any thoughts? Also ping User:Volunteer Marek. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:14, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. I would like to make a distinction here in the title between Soviet deportations from Kresy in 1940-1941 for the purpose of de-Polonization which was a war-crime by modern standards; and, the 'evacuations' which were directed by the Poles themselves under General Anders. Therefore the option # 1 from Piotrus is what I like most. Poeticbent talk 04:01, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
Done. I went ahead and made the move, per proposal. My only question is how much the phrase evacuation of 'Polish civilians' differs from the phrase evacuation of 'Polish people' used by Andrzej Szujecki (2004). A percentage of evacuees were Polish Jews. Poeticbent talk 12:30, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hmmm. It's a bit unclear whether Polish Jews were not Polish people. In the narrow meaning, Polish people means ethnic Poles, but in the broader meaning, Polish people should include multicultural groups, too. Given that Polish people redirects to Poles, and Polish Jews were (are) Poles too, I'd suggest using Polish people. Unless there is a good reason to exclude any mention of military evacuations (Anders army). Which I can't see really, so I'd support a move to people. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:49, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- You hit the nail on the head, Piotrus. Polish people redirects to Poles and that's what concerns me. Initially, the Amnesty for Polish citizens in the Soviet Union which was the legal basis for the evacuation included not only Polish Jews, but also Polish Ukrainians and Belarusians. They were excluded from the amnesty three-and-a-half months later. Poeticbent talk 13:10, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- Hmmm. It's a bit unclear whether Polish Jews were not Polish people. In the narrow meaning, Polish people means ethnic Poles, but in the broader meaning, Polish people should include multicultural groups, too. Given that Polish people redirects to Poles, and Polish Jews were (are) Poles too, I'd suggest using Polish people. Unless there is a good reason to exclude any mention of military evacuations (Anders army). Which I can't see really, so I'd support a move to people. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:49, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- "Evacuation" was the second part of the story, "deportation" was the first. "Exile"? François Robere (talk) 13:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)