Talk:Evacuation in the Soviet Union

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Latest comment: 6 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

The lead sentence does not really seem to fit, I agree. We also need to refer to the contingency plans by Soviet leaders in the 1930s that figured this might happen.--Rowland J, 17:45, 31 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.F. Rowland (talk • contribs)

The lead contains some statistical information from the To the Tashkent Station. When presenting this information, the authors name is misspelled, her name is Rebeca Manley and its spelled Rebeca Marley. But even with that said maybe perhaps the name of the authors are not needed. As-long as the information is cited, placing the names I feel it distracts the reader. Also, there is no citation for where the information about the evacuated prisoners came from as well as the moving of Lenin’s body. The article needs a subheading for “Evacuation of Civilians”

The subheading for “Evacuation of Industry” needs more information. What industry? What part of the country where they moved? Who worked them when they were moved? How did the move affect the economy? Maybe a subheading for the aftermath. What civilian life and industry looked like after the war.After doing some reading it might be important to post some prewar policies facts. The Russians new mass forced migration would be an issue form their experience from WW1 so knowledge on some policies and preparation if any. What civilian population was affected the most and life during/after?Joecantu1134 (talk) 14:43, 31 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

I do not think it fits the style of Wikipedia for the source names to be included in the article. If I am correct about standard Wikipedia style, they should be cited in the biblography, but not named. This follows the moniker that I've heard all my life about Wikipedia from teachers and professors that it's "not a good source in itself, but it has good sources." Either way, I believe the article can be edited and rewritten to remove mentioning of the cited source names, however, still including them in bibliography as is common with Wikipedia style. Conortleonard (talk) 01:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

In the first sentence it states "Evacuation in the Soviet Union is the evacuation of people and industry", there is a specific section for industry but not for people. I think either we should change that to just industry, or add another section that talks about the evacuation of people like where they went after or during the evacuation and maybe how they were affected.Svincen367 (talk) 03:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)Reply

I believe that the article should make mention of the destination of Tashkent in addition to others mentioned in our introductory paragraph, especially considering that Manley's book is cited as well as mentioned. This could also be done to show that the evacuation was temporary. Manley's book shows that all of the evacuees went back to their pre-war homes once the Second World War had ended. This is something that should be made mention of, as well. Jay Rowland has said the evac years were 1941 and 42 when the war first began. It is important to investigate the endings of the evac to show the return home for many of these Soviet people. Conortleonard (talk) 02:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)conortleonardReply

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Possible creation of a new subsection to account for background on Nazi invasion of USSR edit

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A subsection to provide general background on where the story of evacuation of people and industry fits in with the broader Second World War as well as the invasion that Nazi Germany launched on the USSR. I include a reference in the bibliography to give some background on that invasion. Conortleonard (talk) 01:24, 1 April 2018 (UTC)ConortleonardReply

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^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5]Joecantu1134 (talk) 14:23, 31 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

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^ 1. Hartmann, C., & MyiLibrary. (2013). Operation Barbarossa Nazi Germany's war in the East, 1941-1945. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
^ 2. Harrison, M., & American Council of Learned Societies. (1985). Soviet planning in peace and war, 1938-1945 (Soviet and East European studies). Cambridge ; New York: Cambridge University Press.
^ 3. Kharkhordin, O. (2015). From Priests to Pathfinders: The Fate of the Humanities and Social Sciences in Russia after World War II. The American Historical Review, 120(4), 1283.
^ 4. Gorlizki, Y. (1999). Rules, Incentives and Soviet Campaign Justice After World War II. Europe-Asia Studies, 51(7), 1245-1265.
^ 5. Bagdasaryan, A. (2016). THE EVACUATION OF INDUSTRY IN RUSSIA DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR. Historical and Social-educational Ideas, 8(4/2), 21-27.

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[1] 1. Hartmann, C., & MyiLibrary. (2013). Operation Barbarossa Nazi Germany's war in the East, 1941-1945. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

[2] 2. Harrison, M., & American Council of Learned Societies. (1985). Soviet planning in peace and war, 1938-1945 (Soviet and East European studies). Cambridge ; New York: Cambridge University Press.

[3] 3. Kharkhordin, O. (2015). From Priests to Pathfinders: The Fate of the Humanities and Social Sciences in Russia after World War II. The American Historical Review, 120(4), 1283.

[4] 4. Gorlizki, Y. (1999). Rules, Incentives and Soviet Campaign Justice After World War II. Europe-Asia Studies, 51(7), 1245-1265.

[5] 5. Bagdasaryan, A. (2016). THE EVACUATION OF INDUSTRY IN RUSSIA DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR. Historical and Social-educational Ideas, 8(4/2), 21-27.

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