Talk:Eugene Schieffelin

Latest comment: 11 years ago by AlexFekken in topic Unsourced material

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This article needs a citation for the assertion that Schieffelin was not releasing starlings as part of a Shakespeare project.

There is a citation (the Tanner book) edit

The burden of proof lies with those who argue for the Shakespeare theory. If someone has evidence to support this, they should edit the article accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.124.95 (talk) 15:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

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The following is unsourced:

  • Some have speculated that his ambition was to introduce every bird mentioned in the works of William Shakespeare into the United States, though this is almost certainly not true.
  • Shakespeare’s sole reference to the starling appears in King Henry IV, part 1 (Act 1, scene 3): “Nay, I’ll have a starling shall be taught to speak nothing but ‘Mortimer.’” [1]

Who are the "some"? Please see avoid weasel words as to why we don't encourage this sort of thing.

  • Eugene Schieffelin was a wealthy drug manufacturer and theatre aficionado.

Please provide a source. - Tbsdy lives (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • Please provide pre-existing evidence that Starlings were or were/not introduced to N. America during his time or influence.--96.244.244.244 (talk) 03:07, 20 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

One more bit of material I'm removing:

Can we verify that that this was actually named after Eugene Schieffelin? - Tbsdy lives (talk) 23:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

I would like to add: "as the effect that non-native species could have on the local ecosystem was not yet known". Is there a reference to support this assertion?
Because ignorance about such things seems very unlikely to me after 4 centuries of widespread colonization across the entire globe. More likely that they did not want to know, didn't care, and/or deliberately wanted the native species to be replaced. AlexFekken (talk) 06:46, 8 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Decent source. Don't feel like bothering myself now. [2]