Talk:Etna Turpentine Camp Archeological Site
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Klbrain in topic Merger proposal
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Merger proposal
editI propose that Etna Turpentine Camp Archeological Site be merged into Withlacoochee State Forest. The Etna Turpentine Camp Archeological Site resides inside of and is administrated by the Withlacoochee State Park and does not function as a site independent of this state park. It would also allow two small pages to be fleshed out into one larger one Jyggalypuff (talk) 15:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: I haven't made up my mind on this. A google search found this, which states that the Etna turpentine camp "seemed to be typical in terms of size and division of labor." Another source with some peripheral information is here. There a number of newspaper articles about the fight to halt the highway construction, which is worth a mention. The article about the site could be expanded, but the only thing I see that is unique about the site is that it has been used to fight construction of a highway. - Donald Albury 16:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose: The site is still listed separately as an NRHP-listed site in Citrus County. Last night I added a gallery for another NRHP listed site within the Withlacoochee State Forest in Hernando County. If anything, mentioning these and other sites within the forest in the WSF article would be more suitable. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 05:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: OK, one editor @Jyggalypuff: supporting (as the proposer), one editor @DanTD: opposing, me being neutral, and no other comments in over three months. I would say there is no consensus for the merger. If there is no objection, I will remove the the proposed merger notice, without predjudice to reopening the proposal. - Donald Albury 13:27, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Or you could just close it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Closed. Klbrain (talk) 09:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
- Or you could just close it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:29, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Inverness? Not even close!
editThis site is much too far southwest of Inverness, Florida. In fact, it's even too far southwest of Floral City, Florida. It's actually closer to the barely existing community of Oak Grove. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 05:40, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- When I created the article I only had the info in the official NRHP listing, which says it's near Inverness. Maybe there's an article in an area newspaper that might clarify that? --Ebyabe (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, it's located on Citrus County Road 480, west of CR 491, which despite the NRHP listing is too far southwest from Inverness. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 06:23, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- The problem is that I don't see a reliable source that names any town or city that is closer to Etna than Inverness. The map accompanying the newspaper article here does show that Etna is in the Annutteliga Hammock in the southern part of Citrus County, but the WP article says that Annutteliga Hammock is in Hernando County. The CDP of Sugarmill Woods, Florida appears to the west of Etna on the map, but I'm getting into original reasearch here. - Donald Albury 14:52, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, here's the Oak Grove in Citrus County, Florida. If you'd like, I can get you a Google Street View of the vicinity of that sign, and show how close that area is to that segment of the Annutteliga Hammock. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:56, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- That is also getting into original research. That is part of the problem with there being very few reliable sources about this location. - Donald Albury 14:27, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- Google Street View is original research? Since when? The vicinity, and the sign for Oak Grove. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- The core of No original research is, "Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves." Where does Google Street View state that Oak View is the closest community to Etna? - Donald Albury 23:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Did you not notice the correspondence of the location of Oak Grove to the site of the former Etna Turpentine Camp, which you yourself have a map from in that old St. Petersburg Times newspaper article? Come to think of it, you actually have more evidence it's closer to Sugarmill Woods than Oak Grove. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- The core of No original research is, "Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves." Where does Google Street View state that Oak View is the closest community to Etna? - Donald Albury 23:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- Google Street View is original research? Since when? The vicinity, and the sign for Oak Grove. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
- That is also getting into original research. That is part of the problem with there being very few reliable sources about this location. - Donald Albury 14:27, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, here's the Oak Grove in Citrus County, Florida. If you'd like, I can get you a Google Street View of the vicinity of that sign, and show how close that area is to that segment of the Annutteliga Hammock. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:56, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
- The problem is that I don't see a reliable source that names any town or city that is closer to Etna than Inverness. The map accompanying the newspaper article here does show that Etna is in the Annutteliga Hammock in the southern part of Citrus County, but the WP article says that Annutteliga Hammock is in Hernando County. The CDP of Sugarmill Woods, Florida appears to the west of Etna on the map, but I'm getting into original reasearch here. - Donald Albury 14:52, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
- Well, it's located on Citrus County Road 480, west of CR 491, which despite the NRHP listing is too far southwest from Inverness. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 06:23, 14 September 2018 (UTC)