Talk:Ethel Barrymore

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Nathair Nimheil in topic Disputed

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Re the 1902 photo. I scanned it from a 1903 Vanity Fair which was a collection of images of women wearing pants (considered a bit risque at the time). The caption says it's Barrymore in the play "Carrots". The IBDB listing is confusing; is "Carrots" another title for "A Country Mouse", a subset of "Country Mouse", or did they loose a line of code in their web page somewhere? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 16:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay. National Theater.org seems to straighten it out; "Carrots" was a one act play (in which Barrymore played the title character) which preceeded "Country Mouse" (which Barrymore also starred in) on the same bill. However they have the year as 1903, as opposed to IBDB's 1902. Maybe debuted in 1902, touring in 1903? -- Infrogmation 17:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Time succession box

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I have reinstated the succession box for people on the cover of Time magazine that Garion96 deleted. I read the disscussion in wp:actors about succession boxes, but am of the opinion that a succession box for appearances on the cover of Time magazine falls somewhat outside of the ambit of that discussion, which seems to relate to actor-specific awards.

I have to admit that using succession boxes for the purposes of appearing on the cover of a magazine (perhaps the most notable of any such magazine appearances) is clumsy, but I can think of no better way to do it. Mention could be made in the body of the article, but a succession box at the bottom seems less instrusive. There is a list page of people appearing on Time covers, but there has to be some way of linking that (along with appearance date) in the article. Any suggestions welcome.Iacobus (talk) 04:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Winston Churchill

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In her autobiography, Barrymore makes no mention of a marriage proposal from Churchill to her. She writes many times of their close friendship, but that is all. Seeing as she has been very forthcoming as to her personal life, and yet ignores a so-called marriage proposal from WC, I feel it was best to remove that item from her Wiki and instead mention the friendship. Unless a crediable source for such a proposal can be quoted to the satisfaction of all concerned, I believe the current edit should remain as is.

Also, as to her meeting her husband, I removed what was there and used her own memoir as the source for how they met. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jameszerukjr (talkcontribs) 23:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ethel may not have mentioned it, (that book came out when Churchill and his wife was still alive) but at least three Barrymore biographers do mention: James Kotsilibas Davis, Hollis Alpert and ?? John Kobler , John Barrymore's biographer. Kotsilibas Davis is the most thorougly researched Barrymore biographer I've come across and having read his two works on the family I wouldnt hesitate using his writings as canon over someone like Gene Fowler. I wouldn't want to discount what Ethel said in her own words but she was writing a lot of that book at the end of her life when early life memories tend to fade in all of us. The book is nevertheless a collection of memoirs given to a 'ghost' writer(ie: Lionel's book with Cameron Shipp) and then edited into a publishable form. Ethel's book, I find, is too conversational when researching facts(most autobios tend to be), as if someone is laboring to recall events of the past. John's book Confessions of an Actor is similar but not to the extent of Ethel's. I put in the New York Times piece(cited) from 1911 about the divorce proceedings stating that Jack introduced her & Russell, which sort of contradicts what is said in her book. Neither John nor Ethel denounced the New York Times piece which they most certainly would've read. But it's just a logical hunch on my part. ThanksKoplimek (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


Charles Frohman

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There is scarcely a mention of Charles Frohman in this article. No article on Ethel's career could be worthy without mentioning one of the most influential people in her and her brothers' lives. Koplimek (talk) 22:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Legacy

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Needs a legacy section. I mean, she's a legend. --Monochrome_Monitor 01:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Disputed

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As accurately noted on his own page Maurice Barrymore died in Amityville and not in a Texas gunfight. Nathair Nimheil (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)Reply