Talk:Escape from the Planet of the Apes

Why LA?

I always wondered why they changed from New York of the first 2 movies to LA in this one. The next movie "Conquest" takes place in LA also with the name "Central City" I presume since it was filmed in Century City, LA. This leads to a major break when the bomb being worshiped in the second movie is shown in the fifth but now they are in 2 very different ruins. Ben

The first two movies were set in the ruins of New York, but they — and this one, and all the films — were filmed in California. When they switched from the desert setting to a modern, domestic area, it was simply more feasible to use LA. Conquest takes place in a generic cityscape, so there's no real continuity error there; it could theoretically be New York just as much as it could, theoretically, be LA.--SB | T 02:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Time between Planet and Beneath

While it is never specified how much time had elapsed between "Planet" and "Beneath" it could not have been months. At the end of "Planet" Taylor asks for a week's food & water for him and Nova. At the beginning of "Beneath" Brent encounters Nova after Taylor had been captured by the mutants in the Forbidden Zone. She is riding the same horse that she and Taylor were riding at the end of "Planet". Neither she or the horse show any signs of prolonged starvation or dehydration that would have resulted if they had been riding around the Forbidden Zone for a couple of weeks, let alone months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.77.35 (talk) 07:21, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Novelisation

By Jerry Pournelle. Published (at least in the UK) in 1973. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.52.47.97 (talk) 21:44, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Major continuity flaw

In the sequel, "Beneath the Planet of the Apes", we know that all life was wiped out by the Alpha/Omega bomb after a mortally wounded Taylor set it off. So how did anyone survive for "Escape from the Planet of the Apes"? A contrived and error-ridden ploy.

The writers would have us believe that Cornelius, Zira, and Dr. Milo escaped by salvaging and repairing the astronaut Taylor's spaceship (which sank in the first movie); the salvage, repair and launch all happen within the brief period of the final act of the previous film.

1. The problem is, Zira and company had no idea their planet was about to be eradicated, so thinking about escape makes no sense.

2. Also, Taylor's ship crashed in a lake in the Forbidden Zone- they have no idea where this lake is, and to mount a salvage would require dozens of other apes, plus equipment, and the majority of apes were too afraid to break the law to go there. Not to mention, Cornelius and company are "enemies of the state" at this point, so they'd have no popular support.

3. Even overlooking this, one still has to find and do the actual retrieval of this flooded spaceship- that would require heavy equipment and divers. The Apes cannot swim and are afraid of water. They certainly do not have scuba technology.

4. And even if one disregards all of that, there is still the issue of how they make this ship operable after being flooded. Get past THAT and one has to explain how these apes, who had no understanding of flight, got this ship to not only launch, but then fly it into outer space to the time portal that takes them 2000 years in the past.

There was a reason why Heston and Serling felt "Planet of the Apes" was a stand-alone movie and required no sequels. "Beneath" stretched it, but should have ended with the destruction of all life, as was originally shown.206.174.18.137 (talk) 05:35, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Your premise lies upon the scene where Taylor is seen in the desert with no mention of how long he has been there. You assume little time has passed. Your assumption is based on your belief that he didn't find any food and water other than what he took from the apes. However we know from dialogue in "Beneath" there was enough time from "Planet" to "Beneath" for knowledge of humans in the forbidden zone to be disseminated among ape society, and for it to be put on a war footing, the building of an army, training, and equipment. We know there have been gorilla patrols into the forbidden zone. Patrols which, in the ape law, would have been restricted at the time of "Planet". This time represented requires that, although not depicted onscreen, Taylor did find food and water. Since he was near the underground mutants he may have found their food source, or some other food source. Since we know Zira was pregnant from the time she met Taylor and had the baby in "Escape" there was, at most, the gestation period of the future apes. But we don't know how long that is. Taylor told the apes in "Planet" where the ship was. Cornelius merely said it was a long detour there from his digs. Salvaging the ship may have been as simple as placing a bladder in the ship and pumping air in. Although Taylor's ship was flown back in time by the apes Brent's ship may have also been found. We don't know how deep the lake where Taylor's ship sank is. Couldn't have been too deep for the apes to salvage. Using parts from Brent's ship answers the question of how the repairs were done. Since the apes had cannons and guns they had some understanding of basic propulsion like rockets. The propulsion units on the ships have to have been nuclear, and thus were hard enough to survive the crashes, or "water landing" of the ships. Figuring out how to turn it on, and we have all the elements to fly it. So without "disregarding" your points they have reasonably answered. 98.164.84.246 (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

All this is very important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.192.50 (talk) 10:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)