Talk:Erotica/Vintage erotica

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Should vintage erotica be merged into this article? 69.243.41.28 02:46, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, though they are obviously related. The vintage erotica article looks quite tidy as it is at the moment and this one has some way to go before it is complete. - Solipsist 07:39, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

...which is precisely why they should be merged. There is no difference between erotica and erotic art. 83.70.241.86 00.30 22 april 2006.

Erm, there is plenty of difference. But lets keep the discussion in one place at Talk:Erotica#Vintage_erotica. -- Solipsist 05:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

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Should this be merged into erotic art? 69.243.41.28 02:46, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, though they are obviously related. The vintage erotica article looks quite tidy as it is at the moment and this one has some way to go before it is complete. - Solipsist 07:39, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

...which is precisely why they should be merged. There is no difference between erotica and erotic art. 83.70.241.86 00.30 22 april 2006.

Erm, there is plenty of difference. The erotic art article is an art history review of the use of erotic imagery in art, from ancient history up to the present day. Vintage erotica is an article that still needs to be written, but should include discussion of;

• Early erotic photography - an article that Vintage erotica has redirected to in the past, and few if any of those photos would be considered art.
• What the Butler Saw and the popularity of Mutoscope films featuring nudity, particularly in Victorian sea side resorts.
• The rise of erotic films in the 1920s - the first film to feature nudity, Inspiration in 1915, featured a female model posing naked for an artist in order to side step the censors. But the film is not itself art.
• Victorian erotic clothing. No doubt there is also a modern fetish for vintage clothing, such as corsets, but there is probably also a history of erotic clothing and sex aids, some of which is probably quite bizarre by today's standards.

I imagine there is also a modern trend of collecting vintage erotica and early pornography, but little of this would involve collecting any erotic paintings and for the most part is unlikely to include collecting any material made prior to 1850.

Many of these themes include visual media. And for a period, mostly in the 17th and 18th century, fine art painting would also have been part vintage erotica, but for the most part they are separate subjects. -- Solipsist 05:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't think they should be merged. Erotica is general, and Erotic Art and Erotic Writing are to sub categories. Based on this logic, they could be combined logically. But, I think they work better seperately. Atom 19:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)