Talk:Ernst Chain

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Pronunciation

As he was a German-born Russian Jew, I expect his surname was originally pronounced "Kha-in" (possibly derived from chaim). But in Britain, I imagine it became pronounced like "Chain", as in, a connected series of links. True? -- JackofOz (talk) 23:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Obviously, the English spelling pronunciation is the same as that of the unrelated Old French word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 11:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Au contraire, there's nothing "obvious" about it. In Germany, his country of birth, they would not have pronounced it as French people or English people do, but in another way that's appropriate for allemanophones. What was that pronunciation? -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 11:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

It's OK, you can all stop searching now. The Russian WP tells me it was "kha-in", as I always suspected. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 09:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Creationist?

That should be mentioned in the article: http://www.icr.org/article/3767/ --41.151.137.130 (talk) 11:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I agree. He was a theistic evolutionist, accepting evolution of species but rejecting Abiogenesis, or "Materialistic Evolution" — but I've seen creationists citing him as opposed to biological evolution, which is quite false, so I think it would be good to mention his belief in divine creation and evolution.

But I've only got one reference, so I'm putting it here:

Concerning the Materialistic theory of evolution Ernst Chain (who is a theistic evolutionist) states: “I would rather believe in fairies than in such wild speculation. I have said for years that speculations about the origin of life lead to no useful purpose as even the simplest living system is far too complex to be understood in terms of the extremely primitive chemistry scientists have used in their attempts to explain the unexplainable that happened billions of years ago. God cannot be explained away by such naive thoughts.” (Chain, as cited in The Life of Ernst Chain: Penicillin and Beyond by Ronald W. Clark, London, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1985, 147-148).

page 35 here: https://scigod.com/file/SGJ_V1(3).pdf

But looking at the passages cited by icr.org as linked by 41.151.137.130 above, I think just saying "he was a theistic evolutionist" might be misleading. Needs more thought.

BAPhilp (talk) 13:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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Confused?

Since Chain was one of several people working under Florey, what exactly did he do that was so special to garner him the Nobel along with Florey and Fleming instead of one of his other colleagues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBBorges (talk • contribs) 03:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)