Talk:Erika Bourguignon

any comment

I welcome any comments from anyone about this article. As of Jan. 31, 2014 I'm still polishing it up, fixing up the formatting, etc.Athana (talk) 22:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I linked this article to two others: "altered states of consciousness" and "Felicitas Goodman." I believe that the note about lack of linkages should therefore be removed. Also, the article was approved by an appropriate Wikipedia person several weeks ago -- before I removed it so that Erika Bourguignon could look it over before I uploaded it again.Athana (talk) 22:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

This article is an "orphan" because other articles don't link to it, implying that the subject is not regarded as notable by authors of other articles. Also: Bourguignon does not have approval rights over an article about her, any more than Angela Merkel or Lady Gaga do over articles about themselves. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:40, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Someone has added a curious tag to this article saying it doesn't have "secondary or tertiary" sources. I don't know what this writer wants or means. I have used some sources written by Bourguignon herself, but from the very beginning I also included eight sources written by others. These include the following, as can be seen by checking the Bibliography section of the article:

o “Bourguignon, Erika Eichhorn.” 2003. In Who’s Who in the Midwest. New Providence NJ: Marquis. pp. 63–64. o “Bourguignon, Erika.” 2004. In Biographical Dictionary of Social and Cultural Anthropology. <http://www.library.umaine.edu/auth/EZProxy/test/authej.asp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.credoreference.com/entry/routsca/bourguignon_erika>. Accessed 10-18-13. o “Bourguignon, Erika Eichhorn”. 2013. In Who's Who in America. Retrieved 10/18/13 from http://www.library.umaine.edu/auth/EZProxy/test/authej.asp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.credoreference.com/entry/marquisam/bourguignon_erika_eichhorn. o Mann, Melanie. 2009. "Mirrors and Compasses: An 85th Birthday Symposium for Erika Bourguignon". Columbus: Ohio State University, Mershon Center for International Security Studies. o “Mirrors and Compasses: An 85th Birthday Symposium for Erika Bourguignon.” Friday, February 20, 2009. Columbus: Center for Folklore Studies, OSU. o Rich, Grant Jewell. 1999. “Erika Bourguignon: A Portrait of the Anthropology of Consciousness.” Anthropology of Consciousness 10: 50-58. o “Sixth Annual Status Report of Women at The Ohio State University.” 1994. Columbus, Ohio: The Council on Academic Excellence for Women. o “Through the Lens.” 2012. Ascent, the Magazine of the Ohio State University College of Arts and Sciences. Spring, 2012.

I am removing this "sources-not-good" tag.

Athana (talk) 13:49, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

To Orange Mike: You say "This article is an "orphan" because other articles don't link to it, implying that the subject is not regarded as notable by authors of other articles." Other articles have not linked to it because it's a brand new article. No one knows it's here yet. In time I'm certain that others will link to it. Athana (talk) 14:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View

Someone has tagged this article with the following tag: "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (March 2014)."

I am the only contributor so far to this article, so I suppose the tagger means me. Erika Bourguignon was my graduate school advisor 40 years ago. I have not seen her for 40 years. I have been emailing her for the past year, however, and I did volunteer to write a biography about her. She's been very busy, however, and I've not interviewed her. She's answered a few short questions I've posed to her. Our emails have been very short, and few and far between. Since I've been doing much reading about her -- from her own writing as well as that of others -- I thought I would put it into a Wikipedia article. As noted elsewhere, I've referenced the article with sources written by Erika but also with eight sources written about her by others.

I will reference the places in the article labeled "citation needed" (or omit the statement if I can't find a direct reference). Athana (talk) 14:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

I have referenced all places with a "citation needed" note. I have also omitted all statements I can't document. I have replaced most of the documentation that came from the subject herself, with references to published articles written by authors other than Erika Bourguignon.

I hope that it's clear from the article that I've not written it to advance my own concerns or those of Erika Bourguignon. I think the article speaks for itself: Many others have recognized Bourguignon as a preeminent anthropologist, a leader in her field. I believe she should be recognized as such.

Part of the reason i wrote this article is that I saw a plea not long ago for more Wikipedia articles about women. This is such an article.

Because of the changes I've made, and because I have nothing to gain from writing this article (except for the pleasure of making Bourguignon's work known to the general Internet public), I am going to remove the tag: "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies." Athana (talk) 21:20, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

"Written Like a Resume"

I used the same structure for this article as was used for the Wiki article about anthropologist Ruth Benedict. Benedict's article has not been labeled "like a resume." I am therefore going to remove the "Written like a resume" tag from this article until someone can state specifically why this article is more like a resume than the Ruth Benedict one. Athana (talk) 17:15, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

"sources too closely associated with the subject"

I've spent most of the day replacing most of the sources in this article with ones not written by the subject herself. All are reputable sources. I believe it is safe now to remove the tag about the sources being too closely associated with the subject, and will do so now. Athana (talk) 21:26, 19 March 2014 (UTC)