Talk:Erik Mona

Biography Info and Reference Available

I cannot claim NPOV on this article so I'll post this here and let others edit the page if they see fit. In a podcast interview on Geekerati http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/bc/Geekerati/2008/04/01/Erik-Mona-discusses-Planet-Stories Erik reveals that he was born in April of 1974. I know biographies include this sort if info and this is a verifiable reference. There may also be relevant reference information for this article in The Tome RPG podcast #53 http://thetome.podbean.com/2008/03/24/the-tome-ep-53-erik-mona-pathfinder/ Kirkmona (talk) 15:34, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Notability

I have removed the {{notability}} tag from this article. Although it could use better sourcing, the article does succeed in establishing Erik Mona's notability, since he is the head publisher of one of the largest RPG companies there is, in addition to being editor-in-chief of Dragon and Dungeon magazines. -Drilnoth (talk) 22:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

• I have restored the {{notability}} tag from this article. Although it has some sourcing, the article does not succeed in establishing Erik Mona's notability, as it does not cite any reliable secondary sources. --Gavin Collins (talk) 15:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Removing. I will search for sources momentarily. How does being the head publisher of one of the world's largest RPG companies not-notable? -Drilnoth (talk) 15:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
    • I did not say he is not notable per se, just that there is no evidence of notability. --Gavin Collins (talk) 15:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

She? BOZ (talk) 15:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• I've added a few more refs; it'll take a bit of work to go through google for citations (there's a lot of Wikipedia mirrors with his information on them), so I'll continue another time. For now, the {{importance}} tag is appropriate if a tag must be placed on an obviously notable person's article (Erik Mona is, IMO, a lot more notable than Dan Willis. I'm not going to give up a fight here anytime soon, although I hope that conflict like that isn't nescessary.) -Drilnoth (talk) 15:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• In the meantime, please restore the notability template, so that other editors are alterted to the need to add sources. Remember, you do not own the article, it is a shared responsibility to ensure it is sourced. --Gavin Collins (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't own the article. However, the {{importance}} tag needs to stay. -Drilnoth (talk) 16:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• I would much rather that sources were added to this article. But if you are not going to add any, shall we get some third party views on this disagreement about the validity of the cleanup template in the meantime? --Gavin Collins (talk) 21:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• I will search for more reliable secondary sources momentarily. -Drilnoth (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• Added two more; his notability should be established without the need for these sources, but I'm going to keep adding more for awhile. I need a break for now and will work on it more soon. -Drilnoth (talk) 22:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• Besides, there are tons of bios on Wikipedia that you could argue the same for, such as (I'm not trying to pick on any individual people here; I'm just trying to give examples, and which articles are used was pretty much random) Mercedes Abad, Kim Aabech, Alan Buchanan, Boris Yoffe, Eva Isaksen, and Gene Healy. If you look through more of the articles in Category:Living people, I think that you would find, quite literally, thousands of articles that have even less of a claim to notability than Erik Mona. Maybe you should look over some other categories of articles for a change to help "improve" Wikipedia as a whole, rather than just one section? -Drilnoth (talk) 22:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

• I can't vouch for all badly written articles. If we just stick to this topic for a moment, I note that the cleanup template was placed for good reason but removed for...well I don't understand the reason, but what is clear that as no evidence of notability is apparent after it was removed. All that we know from this article is that he is an editor and that he might live in Seattle, Washington (although we have no sources to support this). --Gavin Collins (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

• So kind of you to suggest the article contains false information, or just lies about about the topic. So much for assuming good faith on the part of those editors who originally added the material. Please assume good faith Gavin.Shemeska (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

-removed indent-I believe that {{notability}} was removed because most people think that the article establishes notability. Being the publisher of such an important company should establish notability; the article could use better references. I think that {{refimprove}} may be an accurate template, but the actual notability of Mr. Mona seems to be clearly established. In fact, I will add the {{refimprove}} tag momentarily. -Drilnoth (talk) 22:54, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

• If you're looking for additional material, it might be worth mentioning that Erik Mona was co-author of an Ennie Award winning book this year, and a number of books his company published that year also won awards at the same event. I don't have a printed source to confirm that off the top of my head, but I was there in the room, two rows back when he accepted the award. But perhaps in the absence of a printed source to satisfy Gavin, that's worthless or lying or something.Shemeska (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for reminding me about those awards! I'll look into adding them over the next few days. (added to to-do list). -Drilnoth (talk) 13:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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Article was moved from Stub to Start status because it has a significant amount of information and multiple references. In addition, the main article has not had a Stub tag for some time. Araesmojo (talk) 00:30, 24 October 2020 (UTC)