Talk:Equestrian statue of Joan of Arc (Portland, Oregon)

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 1 April 2020 and 12 June 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Cobler Rose. Peer reviewers: Selena48, WanderingAlice, Sgalvis, Karathompson1.

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Sources

• the content sourced by the Snyder and UO references came from the Laurelhurst article
• there is more info to be added from the Smithsonian link
• http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files/laurelhursthistorichomes.pdf
• http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-18702-dr_know_a_burning_%28saint%29_question.html
• http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/joan_of_arc_statue_in_northeas.html
• http://www.oregonencyclopedia.org/articles/laurelhurst/
• http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMHK3_Joan_of_Arc_Maid_of_Orleans_Portland_Oregon

---Another Believer _(Talk) 09:48, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

• http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/experts-critique-portlands-most-famous-public-art/Content?oid=17134890 ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:29, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
• http://proxy.multcolib.org:2084/resources/doc/nb/image/v2%3A11A73E5827618330%40EANX-NB-12E897AD2AA08F62%402438946-12E69DFB8620C453%4013-12E8AB041A51EA40%40?p=AMNEWS ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:44, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

• https://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2017/02/a_disappearing_president_the_r.html

---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:55, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

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Adding to the article

Hello, I am a PSU student working with Medieval Portland for my capstone and I was assigned the task of researching the equestrian statue of Joan of Arc in Coe Circle. Part of my assignment is to do a digital project for my topic and I choose to expand this Wiki page. I think the information presented on this page is pretty great and in fact, I used a couple of the sources provided here to kick start my research on this statue. As of now, I have no plans of deleting any information that already exists on this page, but just to add a few interesting details I came across while researching that I think will enhance this page greatly. If I feel there is a need for a deletion I will first reach out on the Talk page and present my case. I want to honor the hard work that was put into creating this page and my hope is that what I add will be a valued addition.

Here’s to the beginning of our collaboration, ~Cobler Rose — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cobler Rose (talk • contribs) 23:28, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Cobler Rose, Great! Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to your contributions. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Peer Review

Hey Cobler Rose,

I really appreciate how concise your lead is, giving a really good summary of the origins of the statue and how it came to Portland. One thing I am a little confused about is how I know the statue was dedicated 1925 but it was made before that which means the see also 1925 in art isn't exactly correct, but maybe I'm misinterpreting it. Another thing is that you list the condition as treatment needed 1993. After looking at your source you cited for this I see it says it was treated in 2002 so I'm not sure where you got the 1993 date from, you may want to look over that again. Overall the information is clear and easy to understand and do not see any biases in your work, well done. Sgalvis (talk) 06:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)Sgalvis

Sgalvis, I don't think User:Cobler Rose has even updated the live page yet, but you're right about the 'treatment needed' claim for 1993. I've removed this from the infobox. As for the dedication date, the statue is a copy of Jeanne d'Arc but was installed locally in 1925 (hence the "1925 in art" link in the See also section. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 12:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sgalvis, this is Cobler Rose. Thanks for reviewing the article but User:Another Believer is correct, my contributions are still in my sandbox. I’m wanting to add more information, fix my citations and clean up the writing a bit so it flows better. You are welcome to go to my sandbox, read what I’ve added so far, my contributions are in bold, and tell me what you think (I would appreciate your input). I do agree with you that the lead is good but I think I have User:Another Believer to thank for that. Thank you, Cobler Rose (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Cobler Rose

Mask during COVID-19 pandemic

• https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/11-features/463401-375773-art-masks-a-sign-of-the-times

---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Will be making my work live soon...

user: Another Believer I will be adding my contributions to the live article soon. If you have the time and want to check out what I'm adding before hand here's a link to my sandbox Cobler_Rose/sandbox. I would love to hear what you think. I also enjoyed the link you added of Joan with a face mask. I saw the picture a few weeks ago and thought it was hilarious. Cobler Rose (talk) 20:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)Cobler Rose

"Representations of Joan of Arc in America"

@Cobler Rose: I wonder if this content would be more appropriate for the Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc article. None of this content is specifically about the Portland statue... ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:17, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I think you're right and I debated added this section to the Wiki page. It probably is more appropriate the the Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc article. Thanks for the feedback. Cobler Rose (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Cobler Rose

@Another Believer: Okay, so I took a look at the Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc article and I'm not really feeling like this section is quite right for that article either. I like I said earlier, I do see your point, I have the same thoughts on the matter. However, the reason I ultimately decided to add this section was to go a little deeper with answering the question, "Why a statue of Joan of Arc was used to memorialize the American soldiers of WWI?". What do you think? Cobler Rose (talk) 22:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)Cobler Rose

@Cobler Rose: I agree providing a bit of context might be helpful to readers, but I think only 1 or 2 sentences should be about cultural depictions of Joan of Arc in general; the context we add here should really be based on sourcing about the artwork itself. We don't need to add supplemental content about other topics just because. Does this help? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)