Talk:Environmental impact of meat production/Archive 2

Term for people that don't eat flesh from bovines

There's a term for people that eat fish but not any land-based animals (pescetarian), as well as a term for people that eat poultry as well as fish (Pollo-vegetarianism) so isn't there a term for people that eat the flesh of most animals, except of those of bovines ? From an environmental standpoint, this would make sense as cattle at least have a very bad digestion and as a result generate huge amounts of greenhouse gas (through belching and farting). I assume the same will also be true for other animals in the Bovinae family. Most other animals however (including say pigs, ...) have fairly good digestion so generate far less greenhouse gases.

Here are some figures: 1 kg of beef (cattle) produced 14 to 32 kg CO², 27 to 49 m² of land is required (land use) 1 kg of porc meat produced 3,9 to 10 kg CO², 8,9 to 12,1 m² of land is required (land use) 1 kg of milk produced 0,8 to 1,3 kg CO², 1,1 to 2 m² of land is required (land use) 1 kg of chicken meat produced 3,7 to 6,9 kg CO², 8,1 to 9,9 m² of land is required (land use) 1 kg of eggs produced 3,9 to 4,9 kg CO², 4,5 to 6,2 m² of land is required (land use) references: Livestock Farming Systems and their Environmental Impacts (Quest magazine, september 2009) KVDP (talk) 14:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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Livestock practices are not homogeneous

The entry treats all livestock systems the same. As if they all do the same thing and get the same results. Intensive feed lot systems are very different from pasture systems. Traditional grazing has a terrible impact on the land compared to holistic management or mob grazing. Differentiation is needed. I suggest that the entry be rearranged based off the different management styles and then evaluate the evidence for each system in its own heading.

The global temperature is surely not 33°C

The article states in several places that the global temperature is 33°C. I'm not sure what's meant exactly. Average surface temperature, perhaps? In any case, surely it must be lower. I don't know what the right figure is, though, so I can't do a meaningful edit.

213.67.246.123 (talk) 11:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, this part is misleadingly phrased. The real temperature is around 14–15°C. See Greenhouse effect#Description and Earth#Atmosphere. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 16:05, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Table about Eutrophying Emissions is wrong

The table as it currently is, shows values per 100g of protein. The given values however are described in the sourced article as 'per functional unit' and the functional units differ per product, but basically boil down to per kg of edible matter. I'm not versed enough in Wikipedia editing to alter this myself however.

As a few other tables are also given per 100 g of protein (one of which cites the same source) I'm inclined to believe they are wrong in the same manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.147.239.213 (talk) 16:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Article is extremely one sided

I think this article is extremely one sided and has already jumped the gun on the point by saying that meat has environmental impact without using any sources that claim to disprove the idea that meat farming itself is not environmentally friendly especially when compared to farming of plants such as Almonds or corn. This video from America Uncovered/ China Uncensored which gets a 30-min broadcast on New Tang Dynasty Television.here: The video has a 2 sided view and explores both arguments on the impact of meat on the environment. Wclifton968 (talk) 01:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

While this editor, Wclifton968, has been indefinitely blocked, anyone is free to add sources which provide different perspectives if they meet WP:RS, or discuss new sources here. New Tang Dynasty Television is, like the Epoch Times, closely associated with Falun Gong and known for promoting far-right views, and likely doesn't meet RS.Dialectric (talk) 18:57, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I've had a related discussion to this over at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Monotrophic_diet. In case anyone is interested in adding more information to the other side, I've mentioned a few starting points. Gorgos19 (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Land use of different animals

Can someone add a section with information including the land use of farming per animal type and the land use of farming per plant/fruit type? Thanks. Thinker78 (talk) 22:01, 18 March 2020 (UTC)