Talk:Ent/GA1

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Thedirefulspring in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 22:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

GA Review edit

I'll review this article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:  
    One or two minor points of correction, which will be outlined below.
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction (N/A), and list incorporation (N/A):  
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:  
    B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:  
    C. It contains no original research:  
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:  
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:  
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):  
    Almost completely.
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:  
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:  
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:  
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
    Should only be a short hold. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:24, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Source and image review edit

  • All Tolkien references appear to be accurate.
    • Noted.
  • Spotcheck of accessible sources:
    • 3 - good
    • 6 - good
    • 7 - good
    • 8 - good
    • 9 - good
    • is 15 really necessary?
      • Removed.
    • 16 (Screen Rant): while listed as a marginally reliable source at WP:RSP, the link does not provide any evidence of the Groot character being linked to Tolkien.
      • Removed.
  • Most images are fine. Is File:Twisted Plumeria tree trunk overgrowing the steep stone stairs of Wat Phou temple, Champasak, Laos.jpg really necessary? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
    • To my eye the image supports the text and caption well.

Other issues edit

  • "Treebeard, who (credibly) claims to be the oldest creature in Middle-earth" does Treebeard actually ever claim to be the oldest? Or is he just called such by Gandalf and Celeborn? See [1].
    • Yes, they call him that. Fixed.
  • Is there any analysis available linking Ents to the folklore mentioned (Dryads, Germanic groves, etc.)? Such as the David Day source?
    • Removed the mention.
  • "Treebeard boasted of their strength to Merry and Pippin; he said that Ents were much more powerful than Trolls, which Morgoth made in the First Age in mockery of Ents, as orcs were of elves"." there's a quotation mark at the end, but none preceding it.
    • Removed.
  • Could the description be made a subsection of the Internal history section? I feel like that would work better.
      • Done.
    • If so, you could incorporate some of the material from the passage beginning 'Ents are an old race...' into the First Age subsection.
      • Done, and removed the overlap.
  • I don't think the Erchamion is necessary.
    • Gone.
  • "Samwise Gamgee mentions his" --> mentions that
    • Added.
  • I assume the closing bracket after the Great Sea quotation was a typo.
    • Removed.
  • Could the "Ent-like creatures" subsection be renamed to 'cultural derivations' or similar? I feel that that better represents the contents. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
    • Done.

Nice! Promoting now. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:39, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Would it be worth making mention of Cad Goddeu as a possible source of inspiration? I don't know if Token ever mentioned it but I'd be surprised if Tolkien hadn't read some of the book of Taliesin. Even if, if he did draw on it as a source of inspiration, he used it with some different themes attached. Thedirefulspring (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply