Talk:Emblem of Sudan

The image of the emblem of Sudan does not match the official images.

Good day. The image of the emblem of Sudan does not match the official images. The coat of arms fits into a conditional rectangle. The wings of an eagle do not extend beyond this rectangle. The coat of arms is filled with gold, and not in the current version of the coloring. It is required to replace the current version with the real one. sources: https://sudanembassy.org.uk/about-sudan/ https://sudanembassy.com.pk/en/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/w+z+a+r+tm-a+l+x+a+r+g+y+tm-a+l+s+w+d+a+a+n+y+tm.jpg https://https://iadsb.tmgrup.com.tr/11e519/1200/627/0/102/1000/623?u=https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/2019/02/24/1551029338746.jpg www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=549091073883990&set=a.549091030550661&locale=en_GB https://menaaffairs.com/al-burhan-urges-to-accelerate-delimitation-of-sudan-south-sudan-border/ https://suna-news.net/images/553561_yBAESlT8LglDFMQjh6nlF2ajBGAmIZcc.jpeg Returntoedenblr (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

It was presumably a change to make its appearance be more similar to what is at the center of the Flag of Egypt, and Wikipedia hasn't yet been updated to reflect this yet. (Heraldrywiki also hasn't been updated.) If you could find a "reliable source" as to the date of the change, that would be very helpful. Anyway, it's not an eagle... AnonMoos (talk) 03:49, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, it's a secretary bird. But in fact, the image from Wikipedia is a fantastic drawing that does not exist in reality. It's rather strange that one has to look for a reliable source to disprove a mythical image posted on a wiki. There are many images of the real emblem on various websites related to the government of Sudan. Returntoedenblr (talk) 08:49, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

All available information indicates that the existing images depict the FORMER emblem reasonably accurately, so I really wish that you would not use such words as "mythical" or imply that it's not "real". Such language doesn't resolve anything, or advance the discussion in any way. If you can figure out when the gold version of the emblem replaced the now-outdated version, that would be very helpful. Throwing around loose terminology is not helpful. AnonMoos (talk) 15:24, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

The concept of the former emblem is not applicable here, since initially Wikipedia posted an image that does not have real confirmation at the level of Sudanese law. The gold version is presented on the official sites, access to which is available. Wikipedia contains dozens of coats of arms and flags that do not correspond to real images and descriptions, established in the legislative acts of countries. You cannot refute the fact that the photograph from the parliament building, the rostrum of the head of state, on which there is an image of the coat of arms, is an official source. Free creativity in the image of coats of arms on Wikipedia entails their thoughtless copying by users. Lots of examples. Returntoedenblr (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

If you don't know the date on which the current version if the emblem was adopted, then you don't have the slightest basis on which to accuse Wikipedia images of being inaccurate, since if they were reasonably correct as of the dates of their uploading, then they're NOT inaccurate -- just outdated. AnonMoos (talk) 12:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

@AnonMoos The drawing was based from [1]. The source states that the bird is a secretary bird. Also, I am not sure if the coat of arms ever changed or if the gold version is just a variation. Anyway, I created a vector file of the gold version, mostly based on the 2-dimensional representation at [2]. SVG-image-maker (talk) 01:20, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Would have been nice if you had indicated the image: File:Emblem of Sudan (gold).svg... --- AnonMoos (talk) 21:32, 7 November 2023 (UTC)