Talk:Elisha Taylor Baker
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Edit Request - Notability tag
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Please remove the Notability tag. Notability is based on reliable secondary sources. The source provided for this article is from the Log of Mystic Seaport - maritime museum in the United States. Other secondary sources include: Yachts On Canvas by James Taylor, page 94. Greg Henderson (talk) 16:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- All of the references are primary sources. What is needed to establish notability is significant coverage in independent secondary sources. The article creator failed to include the author of the Mystic reference which is a relative and therefore non-independent COI, does not contribute to notability. AskArt is user-submitted content by galleries that sell his work, does not contribute to notability. Antiques is simply a listing that was submitted by one of the galleries that sell his work, does not contribute to notability. Mobius is a database listing not a source, all it does is prove that his sketchbooks are located there, it does not contribute to notability. Courtesy ping @Left guide who added the tag. Netherzone (talk) 18:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Mystic Log "Elisha Taylor Baker, Marine Painter: A Continuing Search" is by William A. Baker, a naval architect of replica historic ships and a maritime historian. "He served as a member of the editorial advisory board of the American Neptune, 1952–1981; Mystic Seaport, 1973–1981." This is a secondary source. Just because he may be a distant relative (great-great nephew) should not automatically disqualify the author. Everyone is relatd to some degree. There is no COI here or some actual advantage to be gained by him writing this article. I think it an important review the material and decide if it contributes to the understanding of who Elisha Taylor Baker. The article points toward notability. The edit request below points to a 2nd secondary source, which was written by an indepdendent secondary source James Taylor. Greg Henderson (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Edit Request - Add secondary source
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- At the end of the article's lead, please add the following text and source
- He is stands as one of America's leading yacht portraitists.[1]
References
- ^ Taylor, James (2005). "Nineteenth-Century Yacht Portraits". Yachts On Canvas. London: Conway Maritime. pp. 94, 100–101. Retrieved 2024-06-14.
Greg Henderson (talk) 16:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done Do not submit edit requests with errors in them, warnings have been issued multiple times. There are two errors in this edit requst ref.
- What are the two errors? Greg Henderson (talk) 18:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- You need to do that work yourself and stop wasting other editors time. Netherzone (talk) 19:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Netherzone, I found amd fixed errors and the above citation has been corrected. Can you give your opinion on this edit request now? Greg Henderson (talk) 19:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Edit Request - Add paragraph
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- Under Career, after the 1st paragraph, provide the following text:
- "After the American Civil War Baker moved to Brooklyn, New York. In addition to yachts, he painted sailing ships and steamships, seascapes, and New York Harbour scenes.[1]
References
- ^ Taylor, James (2005). "Nineteenth-Century Yacht Portraits". Yachts On Canvas. London: Conway Maritime. p. 94. Retrieved 2024-06-14.
Greg Henderson (talk) 20:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done Due to an ongoing problem of close paraphrasing in the articles by this editor. Just changing a couple words is not correct summarization of sources. Netherzone (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Netherzone, how about this text:
- "After the American Civil War Baker moved to Brooklyn, New York where he painted yachts, sailing ships, steamships, and seascapes of the New York Harbour.[1] Greg Henderson (talk) 03:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Edit Request - Add new text and citation
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- Please add as a source citation the following for each place in the article:
References
- ^ Taylor, James (2005). "Nineteenth-Century Yacht Portraits". Yachts On Canvas. London: Conway Maritime. p. 94. Retrieved 2024-06-14.
- ^ a b c d Falk, Peter Hastings (1999). Who was Who In American Art, 1564-1975. Madison, CT: Sound View Press. p. 179. Retrieved 2024-06-14.
Edit Request - better source needed
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- Under 'Career section, for the setence: "His works are in the collections of the New Bedford Whaling Museum, the Mariners' Museum and Park, and the Mystic Seaport Museum."[1][better source needed]
- Please provide the following citations:
- "Baker's works are in the collections of the New Bedford Whaling Museum,[2] the Mariners' Museum and Park,[3] and the Mystic Seaport Museum."[4]
References
- ^ "Elisha Taylor Baker". Antiques & Fine Art. Retrieved 2021-06-30.
- ^ Stuart M. Frank, Ph.D (2013). "Paintings and Drawings in the Kendall Collection of the New Bedford Whaling Museum" (PDF). New Bedford Whaling Museum. Retrieved 2024-06-18.
- ^ "Centenial, New Jersey Pilot Schooner, No. 7". Mariners' Museum and Park. Retrieved 2024-06-18.
21-3/4" (height) x 35-1/4" (width)
- ^ "Ship Coldstream attributed to Elisha Taylor Baker". Mystic Seaport Museum. Retrieved 2024-06-18.
22 x 40 in.