Talk:Elihu Embree

very simply put....this was NOT the nation's "first aboliltionists paper'

easily...and i've read the original Mt Pleasant ohio Philantropists by Charles Osburn and have copies of the same "original" abolitionist paper....and its dated....1813....sorry my southern historians...

while i truly respect this work and this man's conversion....and his ability to produce such a tract inside the south

the original western abolitionists paper, belonged to a friend of Ben Lundy's from Lundy's own home town of Mt. Pleasant, Ohio

wherein Lundy himself...is listed in 1813...as a "agent" for the Osburn paper.... [which also ran for a relatively but critical short period of time...[from 1812-1813]

and it was THIS PAPER, that Lundy actually sought to re produce....and DID back in OHIO!!!...

i imagine this may rankle some folks down there in the beautiful hills of Tenn...and i don't mean to do this...

but Lundy's paper the Genius was NOT purchased from Elihu....at all..as inferred here in your article for wikipedia

it was re produced right here in southeastern Ohio ..and it was from a fellow quaker from Lundy'a original area, where he moved to Tenn from....that gave him his 'street cred' and ability to write and produce print for the abolitionists cause....Lundy clearly wrote his paper, once he got back to southeastern Ohio...and he did NOT bring his ideas from Tenn or Elihu....he only grew them perhaps, but he had been a LISTED AGENT on the PHILANTROPIST of Charle Osburn, the nations original abolitionist paper, purely devoted to the cause....and printed in Mt. Pleasant, seven yrs before Mr. Elihu's papers

nice try ....but no banana !

rich olivito

jefferson county ohio and owner of the "Lundy House" a national landmark ...really.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.212.82.77 (talk) 04:08, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, but unless reliable sources are used to assert the content, it is original research. --CutOffTies (talk) 04:27, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

I suspect the answers are in this paper, although unfortunately, I no longer have access to it. Kaldari (talk) 05:01, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

This website claims that "The Philanthropist was the first anti-slavery newspaper in the United States." I'm reluctant to amend this article just yet, however, since the claim here is sourced to an academic paper, which may have more specific information. Kaldari (talk) 05:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The JSTOR paper says that

• The Philanthropist was the first anti-slavery newspaper, but discussed other topics and was thus not "the first newspaper in the United States devoted exclusively to the cause of abolishing slavery".
• The Emancipator was the second anti-slavery newspaper, but the first which was exclusively devoted to collating and covering anti-slavery topics.

Hope this helps. sonia♫ 07:52, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I've added a note to the lead to clarify. Kaldari (talk) 04:45, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

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