Talk:Electronic document and records management system

An Electronic Document and Records Management System is more than a Document Management System with extra words, it enforces Records Management as well, and therefore deserves an article in its own right. Greyskinnedboy (talk) 01:44, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

EDRMS is a type of CMS, rather than part of as suggested. To say part of implies that a CMS per se encompasses all types of content, whereas some CMS manage only one type of content, such as a web content management system. Greyskinnedboy (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Here is the relevant text

• A content management system (CMS) is a computer application used to create, edit, manage, search and publish various kinds of digital media and electronic text. CMSs are frequently used for storing, controlling, versioning, and publishing industry-specific documentation such as news articles, operators' manuals, technical manuals, sales guides, and marketing brochures. The content managed may include computer files, image media, audio files, video files, electronic documents, and Web content.

• Electronic document and records management aims to enable businesses to manage documents and records throughout the life cycle, from creation to destruction.

Both articles make similar claims; how is the Wikipedian reader (including me!) to make sense of which does what? The problem is not "part" or "type" it's that the just created article, "Electronic...", doesn't describe it's relationship to the already existing "Content ...". Text shoud be added to both articles, describing the relationship. (this isn't my field, I have no axe to grind, just watching categories in selected new articles and "Electronic..." caught my attention.) Thanks 69.106.246.15 (talk) 03:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

(MORE) Then there is Records management, which states

• Records management, or RM, is the practice of identifying, classifying, archiving, preserving, and destroying records.

btw, that article has a section "Managing electronic records"

And not to forget Document management system:

• A document management system (DMS) is a computer system (or set of computer programs) used to track and store electronic documents and/or images of paper documents.

So there were already two articles on managing electronic documents & records (and, of course, the Content managmeent article). Given the existing articles that address Electronic documents & records, what does the new article add? Does the new article replace one or more? Should "electronic" texts in old articles be deleted, replaced by "See also new article"? As is, the 4 articles are a puzzle to the reader. Apologies for running on so long.

Maybe Enterprise content management should be the main article, with the others as sections.69.106.246.15 (talk) 06:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I have a confession to make: There used to be an article over at EDRMS which I copied into this new page and then redirected it here, because clearly it's better practice to have the article named in full, not an abbreviation. I realise now that I should have moved it not copied it, then the flags and history would have been better maintained. Ooops. My bad. But I have learnt. Leaving that aside, the points raised here are very valid, there needs to be an overhaul of all the associated articles so that they work together and reference each other better. While the previous IP poster makes a good argument for Enterprise Content Management being the topmost article, as it's a type of CMS that definitely does encompass everything; however the type should probably come before the instances, i.e. maybe it will work better to have CMS at the top. I'll look into this over the coming days (maybe not this week, as I'm at Webstock 2009). Does anyone have any pointers as to how to create one of those category tables that appear at the side/bottom of a set of associated articles? Greyskinnedboy (talk) 18:29, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

That can all be fixed by an admin. On your own talk page enter {{Help}} (see Template:Help), followed by an explanation of what's been done and what you would like done to correct it. An admin will respond to the help (I also did a copy instead of a move early on). For a possible way to organize the Content/Document/Record articles, see Computer - where most sections have a corresponding "Main article". 69.106.246.15 (talk) 00:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

EDRMS/ERMS The recent (2008) International Council on Archives publication Principles and Functional Requirements for Records in Electronic Office Environments, Module 2: Guidelines and Functional Requirements for Electronic Records Management Systems uses the term "electronic records management system" (ERMS) not the longer "electronic document and records management system" (EDRMS). It may be useful to note the minor, but significant, distinction between systems that are 'pure' records management tools and those which are also document handlers - although (one hopes) the distinction will fade as workflow, and other, tools are increasinly incorporated into E(D)RMS packages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trithemius (talk • contribs) 23:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

New at this - learning guidelines External Link Inserted

Please alert if guideline broken.

A short list of links to professional forms associations was edited to include an external link to the Business Forms Management Association. BFMA I believe this link is beneficial as it seems to fit all the criteria in the guidelines for inclusion of appropriate links.

I'm curious how the other links to professional forms associations such as AIIM were made to be internal wiki links.

One iota (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)