Talk:Elbow

Shakespeare's use of "elbow"

The article says: The word 'elbow' was first used in William Shakespeare's play King Lear (1606) But that isn't true. Shakespeare was apparently the first person to use "elbow" as a verb, but not the first to use the word "elbow" at all. The word itself existed as a noun for long before Shakespeare's use of it as a verb in King Lear. Example: In King Lear, The Earl of Kent says "A sovereign shame so elbows him" when talking about King Lear to mean "some shameful actions he did previously that still bother him". Bzzzing (talk) 07:47, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

You are correct; deleted.TjoeC (talk) 17:42, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Elbow and elbow joint

Re an earlier edit and removal - MeSH differentiates between these two. The page includes a section on the elbow joint and most other sections relate to the elbow in general. --Iztwoz (talk) 20:37, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Head of ulna?

The article states "The third landmark is the olecranon found at the head of the ulna." I was always taught the ulnar head was at its distal end. 140.228.217.193 (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Carrying angle

Several sources describe the carrying angle- the angulation laterally of the forearm bones- as a product of the swinging clearance of the arm past the hips. In military x-ray tech school in the 1970s we were taught that the angle was a sex-linked trait generally, that is most likely reduced as a result of the arm's use. Hence "throwing like a girl" is due to this angle; but if it was an evolved trait it was pointed out that female humans tended to sit a carried child on the ala of the hip, and the angle also strengthened that ability for the female to carry weight with the arm bent. Many NFL quarterbacks tend to entirely lose that angulation in their throwing arms over a career of throwing the ball. Tennis players both male and female often lose their angles after years of playing the game. I have been curious over the years to find out what golf and other sports that involve strong straight-arm extensions do to the carrying angle over time.

I am also not able to find whether archeologists have a determining criteria that tells them the "handedness" (chirality if you will) of fossil ancestors, or biologists have an understanding of this phenomena among other vertebrates, though I had read that crows tend to be more right-biased than left.

I have no sources for my carrying angle assertions other than a classroom lecture in the 1970s. 2601:1C2:4680:11B0:843B:E1DA:9324:496A (talk) 05:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes the Head of the ulna contains the olecranon process

Again, as a military radiology student in the 1970s, we were taught the olecranon is at the head (proximal end) of the ulna 2601:1C2:4680:11B0:843B:E1DA:9324:496A (talk) 05:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)