Talk:Effective potential

Latest comment: 3 years ago by 151.61.2.8 in topic notion more general than advertised

L not a constant!

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In defining the effective force using the effective potential, you have just considered L as a constant! L is actually a function of r. This only makes a difference in the change of sign in this particular case. And while the equation of force is the correct one, since the force (centrifugal) is repulsive, meaning that it has a positive sign, tracing it back to the potential using L's dependence on r should make the centrifugal potential negative. It is required to be negative so that it falls as you go farther, which is gives rise to the Lagrangian points. Tushar Shrotriya (talk) 11:09, 21 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Potential and Potential Energy are different things

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An effective potential energy "U" would have units of joules in the SI system. An effective potential, which I think should be "V" to distinguish it, would have units of joules per some quantity. For, example, gravitational potential energy is given by

 

while gravitational potential would be that value divided by the mass of the test mass

 

Effective potential energy and effective potential should be likewise distinguished. What is this article trying to be about?

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A sign said "it has been suggested that this page be merged with geopotential," but I came here and saw no such suggestion. I can only infer that the sign was placed down by someone far more skilled at W. editing, but far less knowledgeable in physics, than myself. So, here, take it from a physicist who works in related fields. No, geopotential is not effective potential. It is a later and more specialized rediscovery of an important insight, as happens all the damn time in physics. This is my baby, I will fight to protect it. Anarchic Fox (talk) 15:34, 14 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

notion more general than advertised

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this page gives the reader the impression that the notion of effective potential is limited to orbital motions, but it seems to me that it is way more general (i am a phd student in statistical physics), used in classical statistical mechanics, quantum mechanics, cold atoms experiments, ... especially in the introduction, the reference to centrifugal force bothers me, since the effective potentials i am mentioning above don't refer at all to this. since i am far from being an expert, despite my degrees, i await for someone more knowledgeable to correct, me or the article! 151.61.2.8 (talk) 22:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply