Talk:Edward Fitzgerald (Great Grimsby and Lichfield MP)

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On 31 August 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Edward Fitzgerald (1529-90) to Edward Fitzgerald (Great Grimsby and Lichfield MP). The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 31 August 2024

Latest comment: 27 days ago8 comments6 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus and the policy case are both clear. BD2412 T 00:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Edward Fitzgerald (1529-90) → Edward Fitzgerald (Great Grimsby and Lichfield MP) – For better alignment with WP:NCPDAB. Wikipedia does not ordinarily use lifespan ranges (especially with hyphens in them) for disambiguation of people. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. The hyphenated parenthetical qualifier should indeed be revised. As for form of the qualifier, entries under Category:English MPs 1563–1567, Category:English MPs 1571 or Category:English MPs 1572–1583 are inconsistent, but seem to indicate "(MP for ...)", such as Thomas Andrews (MP for Dover), John Berde (MP for Hythe), Richard Birde (MP for Winchester), Thomas Cheyne (MP for Rye), Thomas Colby (MP for Thetford), James Dalton (MP for Saltash), Robert Knollys (MP for Breconshire), John Price (MP for Cardiganshire), Thomas Strange (MP for Cirencester) or Walter Vaughan (MP for Carmarthenshire), to name but ten. Thus, Edward Fitzgerald (1529-90) → Edward Fitzgerald (MP for Great Grimsby and Lichfield) might be an alternative option. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I believe the proposed form was suggested by Necrothesp. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support. Both forms are seen, but per WP:CONCISE I always prefer Edward Fitzgerald (Great Grimsby and Lichfield MP). -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

On the other hand, putting "MP" first gets to the basic point directly, with the "for ..." clearly being lower-level detail. "MP for ..." may also be easier to read for some people. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:29, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support Edward Fitzgerald (MP for Great Grimsby and Lichfield), per WP:CONSISTENT/WP:TITLECON. RodRabelo7 (talk) 02:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Note: WikiProject Biography and WikiProject Biography/Politics and government have been notified of this discussion. Reading Beans 16:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

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