Talk:Edie Sedgwick/Archives/2014

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Laurencebeck in topic Jessé de Forest

In Popular Culture

I just did some pruning of the "In music" section, removing allusions made by non-notable musicians. It could probably use more pruning still, or, at the very least, a nice crop of references. All I did was Google the artists listed and, if I found no third-party mentions of them within the first several pages of hits, I deleted the corresponding allusion from the list. As stated in WP:IPC: "Exhaustive lists are discouraged, as are passing references to the article subject." Feel free to cross-check my edits, but please provide your rationale on this talk page if you're re-adding something to the list. --Fullobeans (talk) 06:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks like there has been no mention of the Cult song about her since a 2011 edit--particularly odd given that the song about her was a moderate hit and even has its own Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edie_(Ciao_Baby) ... seems like a pretty obvious candidate to be put back in. 75.69.34.112 (talk) 23:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

edie sedgwick

edie brickell and the new bohemians had a track on their debut album called "Little Miss S" about edie Sedgwick. from philz1@outlook.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.164.242 (talk) 18:03, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Bio style

The biography section is not written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia entry. Note particularly the first and second-to-last sentences. I've tagged it accordingly. Jonathan F 00:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

In response, I have removed what I have always felt was not appropriate for your article.Jay (talk) 05:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Where does the "sexual abuse" statement come from? I would suspect that it is "hearsay" and not worthy of being in this article. (I removed it only to find someone put it right back.) If it came from Jean Stein, it should be considered suspect - her whole book was based on hearsay and memories. Jay (talk) 05:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Factory Girl

The film "Factory Girl" has Edie saying that her great-great-great uncle was a signer of the Declaration of Independance. Perhaps Edie said that, but then she did not know her history: William Ellery was her 3rd-great grandfather; Robert Sedgwick, 8th child of Judge Theodore Sedgwick and Pamela (Dwight) Sedgwick married Ellizabeth Dana Ellery, daughter of William Ellery and Abigail (Shaw) Ellery; their daughter Henrietta Ellery Sedgwick married Henry Dwight Sedgwick II (her 1st cousin) the son of Henry Dwight Sedgwick (Robert Sedgwick's brother); they had a son named Henry Dwight Sedgwick III (the scholar and writer) who was Edie's grandfather. Jay (talk) 03:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

"The film "Factory Girl" has Edie saying that her great-great-great uncle was a signer of the Declaration of Independance."
Yes, I think this is true but it was not the name Sedgwick. The gentleman had a child or grandchild who married into the Sedgwick line.
Edie Sedgwick was Sedgwick-made. A lot of the people of Warhol's factory were indeed "factory-made".
The title for the movie could then otherwise have been Factory Maid. --Laurencebeck (talk) 05:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Other family history

Did you know that Edie Sedgwick could also claim to be a descendent of Col. Robert Gould Shaw, of "Glory" fame? Her father was the grandson of Susanna Shaw, Shaw's sister, and Robert Browne Minturn. That would make her Robert Gould Shaw's great niece and Susanna's great grand daughter. Talk about an amazing gene pool!

According to one source[1], her family background is even more rich: "She could trace her family history to the Mayflower and claimed a bank account overflowing with money made from her grandfather's invention of the elevator". I have no idea how reliable the source is, though. CrashRiley 17:40, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Edie's grandfather did not invent the elevator; her only relationship to the "elevator" was a distant ancestral cousin who had a plant up the Hudson that specialized in "dumb waiters" and also made elevators. Furthermore, Edie inherited a very small trust fund from her grandfather that never could have susidized her lavish lifestyle. She loved to play the "rich girl" act to the hilt, but she was never rich by any means. The family once bailed her out of her huge debt, and she did use up the small capital in her trust fund. "Factory Girl" wrongly perpetuates the myth that Edie was rich. Jay (talk) 04:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

The Family section is interesting but one-sided in its listing the successful family members, ignoring tragedies in the distant past and, surprisingly, tragedies in her immediate family. R Waldo WCU (talk) 05:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Jessé de Forest

Jessé de Forest needs to have the accent over the last "e" in order for the article on Jesse to be brought up. Jay (talk) 17:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

  Done In the future, you can easily fix this yourself. Pinkadelica 16:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Jessé de Forest
( from the main article) Edie Sedgwick's mother Alice was the daughter of Henry Wheeler de Forest, the President and Chairman of the Board of the Southern Pacific Railroad and a direct descendant of
Jessé de Forest whose Dutch West India Company helped to settle New Amsterdam. Jessé de Forest was also Edie's seventh-great grandfather. --Laurencebeck (talk) 05:20, 18 October 2014 (UTC)