Talk:E (New York City Subway service)/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 01:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Opening statement

In reviews I conduct, I may make small copyedits. These will only be limited to spelling and punctuation (removal of double spaces and such). I will only make substantive edits that change the flow and structure of the prose if I previously suggested and it is necessary. For replying to Reviewer comment, please use  Done,  Fixed,  Added,  Not done,  Doing..., or  Removed, followed by any comment you'd like to make. I will be crossing out my comments as they are redressed, and only mine. A detailed, section-by-section review will follow. —♠Vami_IV†♠ 01:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: yeet –♠Vami_IV†♠ 01:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Pre-prose review comments

• The bolding of every instance of a train's alphabetic name is not sanctioned by the Manual of Style; strip it out.
• The train bullets should be thumbed, and labeled.
  • @Vami IV: Done.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
• Citation Needed tags need to be resolved.
  • @Vami IV: Done.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
• Make the stations table collapsible.
  • @Vami IV: Done.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
• Citations [36] and [41] are missing their URLs, and [42] has a error in its date parameter.
  • The first, second, and fourth points would apply to other subway services' articles as well. I can try doing the first and fourth, but the second has been historically controversial in the past, I think. epicgenius (talk) 13:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
    • I did the first and fourth points. epicgenius (talk) 16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
      • Marked off accordingly. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 16:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
        • 36 and 41 are the same source and are not online. That point is done. [42] has an error as the journal cited was for both January and February, not just one month. I am not sure how to deal with that.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Vami IV: All remaining issues have been addressed.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
    • @Kew Gardens 613: Thanks for adding the citations, I really appreciate them. Just a note that you pinged Vami four times by adding four ping templates, and in the future, one ping should be enough. epicgenius (talk) 01:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
      • @Epicgenius: I didn't realize that they resulted in four separate pings, as opposed to one for the edit. I will take note.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• Would it be possible to talk about the bullet somewhere else? Maybe the "Route" section?
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Footnotes A and B would be best in "Route", too, along with a discussion of that route.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

History

• Almost every paragraph in this section starts with WP:PROSELINE.
  • Did the changes I made help?--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    • No; do the opposite of that. Have less sentences starting with a date. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 20:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
      • @Vami IV: I did reduce the number of sentences starting with a date.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 11:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• [...] World Trade Center (formerly known as Hudson Terminal). Delete the parenthesized text.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Vami IV: I disagree with your addition of "the" before E service. New Yorkers and the MTA refer to it as E train, E route, or E service. Announcements might say "E trains are not running between...", not "The E trains are not running..."--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
    • Feel free to remove them. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 16:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Issues

• As a result, Delete or replace with something else. The efforts to quell overcrowding are not necessarily a result since they are themselves actions taken to address a result.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
• [...] due to a 1975–1976 New York City fiscal crisis, [...] The 1975–1976 New York City fiscal crisis.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
• To further increase capacity, as part of the MTA's 2010–2014 Capital Program, the MTA is equipping [...] Is equipping? This was 5-6 years ago; have they finished?
  • Projects from capital programs regularly stretch years beyond their end dates, and the installation is ongoing.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
• [...] which will allow for three more trains during peak hours on the Queens Boulevard express tracks (it currently runs 29 tph). This will also increase capacity on the local tracks of the IND Queens Boulevard Line. More present-tense.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
• Can "Homelessness" get a general rewrite? Try shortening the first sentence to For several decades, the E has hosted a large population of homeless people and has been nicked the "Homeless Express"., then elaborating why. If there's more to add to the section, I think it should be added, because the section feels a bit barren.
  • There is not much more I can add, but I can look around some more.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Route

• Why is the only mention to this line's rolling stock in the infobox?
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Footnotes A and B still have no citations.
  •  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
• Could you make the tables under this section autocollapsed? They're rather large and a pain to scroll past.
  • @Vami IV:  Done--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

GA progress

No disambiguation links present. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Pictures are free/tagged and relevant to the article. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

References are reliable. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 17:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• • @Vami IV: I also added a section on overcrowding and homelessness to provide a more complete coverage of the subject. Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC) --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 14:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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